Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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mmj_uk said:
They are arresting people just for being members of far right groups as they are designated terrorist organisations, according to one of those Guardian articles a couple were arrested because they named their kid after Hitler. I mean it's no wonder you have a rise in "far right" arrests when the police are taking it so seriously. What's annoying though is so much violence in recent years has come from the far left, many Antifa members walk around waving Communist flags so why are they not they seen as terrorists? I've lost count how many times I've seen people on the left calling for violence on social media and nobody seems to care when they do it. There's a massive double standard. I mean if you were to call your newborn after some historic Communist that committed genocide nobody would bat an eyelid but both ideologies are as bad as each other. Present day China are supposedly Communist and they're putting Muslims into camps.
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Yep. Also things like that guy who was charged for teaching his dog "nazi salutes" as a prank :/

Go around saying all white people are racist, throwing bottles at police and throwing statues in rivers though, carry on.
 
Nasher said:
Guardian article though...

They are there, and they cause trouble sometimes, but they are small time and mostly all mouth. They aren't running crowds over with Enterprise rental vans or knifing random people in the street.

The whole idea that the "right wing terrorists" are a big threat to the public is a myth.
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mmj_uk said:
They are arresting people just for being members of far right groups as they are designated terrorist organisations, according to one of those Guardian articles a couple were arrested because they named their kid after Hitler. I mean it's no wonder you have a rise in "far right" arrests when the police are taking it so seriously. What's annoying though is so much violence in recent years has come from the far left, many Antifa members walk around waving Communist flags so why are they not they seen as terrorists? I've lost count how many times I've seen people on the left calling for violence on social media and nobody seems to care when they do it. There's a massive double standard. I mean if you were to call your newborn after some historic Communist that committed genocide nobody would bat an eyelid but both ideologies are as bad as each other. Present day China are supposedly Communist and they're putting Muslims into camps.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/us/domestic-terrorist-groups.amp.html

https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...-plots-have-outnumbered-far-left-ones-in-2020

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

329 dead people, but yea, it’s a myth the far right are dangerous :rolleyes:
 
hurfdurf said:
Then any religious terrorism can come under far right due to its fundamentalist right wing restrictive connotations
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The IRA were not particularly motivated by religion either compared with islamists. Reunification by force and brits out were the aims. The fact that they were almost entirely catholic and the unionists similarly protestant was useful but not essential to the struggle.
 
VincentHanna said:
Even if he tried to run off, he was cuffed still and you can't run that fast with your arms behind your back.

And didn't any of the officers have a taser they could have used?

At one point he was fully in the back of a police car already and the police pulled him to put him on the ground which is when they restrained him with the knee...why not just slam the door on him? He was cuffed and the back of police cars are reinforced.
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Because he was asking to be let out of the car and be put on the ground. You can hear him saying that in the video.

Had they "just slammed the door on him", nothing would have changed. People would still have been raging at the police for mistreating a person of the most superior race. The video would be of him panicking and thrashing about in the back of a police car and he'd probably have died there.
 
Angilion said:
Because he was asking to be let out of the car and be put on the ground. You can hear him saying that in the video.

Had they "just slammed the door on him", nothing would have changed. People would still have been raging at the police for mistreating a person of the most superior race. The video would be of him panicking and thrashing about in the back of a police car and he'd probably have died there.
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Yeah yeah the better idea than keeping him in the car is taking him out the car, putting him on the ground and pushing your knee into his neck for 8 minutes when he's saying I can't breath 50 times then doing nothing when he stops responding. Maybe he would have died but Chauvin deserves whatever they give him for that utter stupidity.
 
I can't seem to find it, but is it just Chauvin that's on trial or will the officers present be on trial at a later date if he's found guilty ? Seems they'd all be held accountable if there has been a crime committed ? And if they're not going to be trial then why is it only Chauvin ?

Naff8000 said:
Yeah yeah the better idea than keeping him in the car is taking him out the car, putting him on the ground and pushing your knee into his neck for 8 minutes when he's saying I can't breath 50 times then doing nothing when he stops responding. Maybe he would have died but Chauvin deserves whatever they give him for that utter stupidity.
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Watch the bodycam footage, he pushed his way out of the car from the other side as the officers were trying to get him in from both sides, he was literally shouting he couldn't breath the moment he got near the doors of the police car, talk about crying wolf
 
Minusorange said:
I can't seem to find it, but is it just Chauvin that's on trial or will the officers present be on trial at a later date if he's found guilty ? Seems they'd all be held accountable if there has been a crime committed ? And if they're not going to be trial then why is it only Chauvin ?



Watch the bodycam footage, he pushed his way out of the car from the other side as the officers were trying to get him in from both sides, he was literally shouting he couldn't breath the moment he got near the doors of the police car, talk about crying wolf
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I know right, the best thing to do when someone says they can't breathe is to push your knee into their neck for 8 minutes.
 
Naff8000 said:
I know right, the best thing to do when someone says they can't breathe is to push your knee into their neck for 8 minutes.
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Usually when people can't breath they can't shout from the top of their lungs the way he was

Just what exactly are they supposed to do when he's doing his best to resist arrest and he's high as **** on the cocktail of drugs he took
 
Minusorange said:
Usually when people can't breath they can't shout from the top of their lungs the way he was

Just what exactly are they supposed to do when he's doing his best to resist arrest and he's high as **** on the cocktail of drugs he took
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Hmm I dunno, not press his knee on his neck for 8 minutes when he's shouting I can't breathe.
 
Angilion said:
Because he was asking to be let out of the car and be put on the ground. You can hear him saying that in the video.

Had they "just slammed the door on him", nothing would have changed. People would still have been raging at the police for mistreating a person of the most superior race. The video would be of him panicking and thrashing about in the back of a police car and he'd probably have died there.
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Most superior race?

You ok hun? You’ve gone a little off the rails with your posting recently.
 
Minusorange said:
Usually when people can't breath they can't shout from the top of their lungs the way he was

Just what exactly are they supposed to do when he's doing his best to resist arrest and he's high as **** on the cocktail of drugs he took
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Restrain him without kneeling on his neck killing him ideally.
 
Minusorange said:
Watch the bodycam footage, he pushed his way out of the car from the other side as the officers were trying to get him in from both sides, he was literally shouting he couldn't breath the moment he got near the doors of the police car, talk about crying wolf
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The guy who said he would die, who died. Was crying wolf. Ok.
 
Naff8000 said:
Yeah yeah the better idea than keeping him in the car is taking him out the car, putting him on the ground and pushing your knee into his neck for 8 minutes when he's saying I can't breath 50 times then doing nothing when he stops responding. Maybe he would have died but Chauvin deserves whatever they give him for that utter stupidity.
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He started saying he can't breathe while he was standing up, throughout his time in the car and then when he was eventually put on the ground. The cry wolf story comes to mind.

I believe the officer even said your talking fine, when he kept banging on about not being able to breath.
 
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