Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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Being shot, stabbed, blown up, strangled or beaten accounts for 32.2% of Police deaths on the job. Job related illness accounts for 28.2%, they're almost as likely to be killed by a doughnut as they are a gunman.
 
Being shot, stabbed, blown up, strangled or beaten accounts for 32.2% of Police deaths on the job. Job related illness accounts for 28.2%, they're almost as likely to be killed by a doughnut as they are a gunman.


And by the figures, your drivers ate all the doughnuts and died running ;)
 
I'm assuming this is from road traffic collisions rather than being shot at by the people they interact with?
Most police deaths in the US are due to things like heart attacks, traffic incidents (not even necessarily on a call), being mauled by their own dogs.

The actual number killed by criminals is pretty small and IIRC it's riskier to be a taxi driver or a corner shop staff member in terms of risk of violent death whilst at work.
 
Most police deaths in the US are due to things like heart attacks, traffic incidents (not even necessarily on a call), being mauled by their own dogs.

The actual number killed by criminals is pretty small and IIRC it's riskier to be a taxi driver or a corner shop staff member in terms of risk of violent death whilst at work.
But is that because of the way police respond to incidents at the moment, means they are less likely to lose their life when such situations occur.

Also really they get mauled by their own dogs:eek:
 
Most police deaths in the US are due to things like heart attacks, traffic incidents (not even necessarily on a call), being mauled by their own dogs.

The actual number killed by criminals is pretty small and IIRC it's riskier to be a taxi driver or a corner shop staff member in terms of risk of violent death whilst at work.

Taxi driver
"Most common accident: Roadway incidents"

Delivery\drivers
"Most common accident: Overexertion and bodily reaction"

Police
"Most common accident: Intentional injury by other person"

That puts it in to context.
 
You're twice as likely to die on the job as a delivery driver in America than as a police officer.

Without context this is rather irrelevant - it seems like a naive attempt to downplay the obvious risk police have in making an arrest in a high crime rate area.

Plenty of US police officers don't patrol, have desk jobs or mostly do investigations etc.. Plenty of police officers are working in rural areas, low crime rates etc..

The incident here involves uniformed officers who do patrol/respond to calls and responding to one of those calls in a high crime rate, urban area - in particular that specific junction has a CCTV camera because it is a high crime rate area... (even during the build up to this recent trial someone was shot and killed there).

So it's rather a meaningless comparison to make when there is rather more additional context that clearly changes things.
 
Most police deaths in the US are due to things like heart attacks, traffic incidents (not even necessarily on a call), being mauled by their own dogs.

Most black people arrested don't die in police custody but it's still become a massively important issue.

People have argued that George Floyd was telling him that he couldn't breathe and use that as some kind of evidence that Chauvin is evil personified but I'd assume that it is a very common tactic used by those arrested who want the police officer to ease up on them in an attempt to get wriggle free and away, or reach for a hidden weapon.

Point is police take measures such as these restraining techniques to protect themselves, hobbling police officers ability to restrain people might reduce accidental deaths of black suspects but it's only likely to increase deaths of black police officers which I'm sure the "abolish/defund the police" brigade would love.

The whole thing has just been used for divisive race baiting anyway, there was a similar occurence a few years ago with some white guy and both the corporate media and those who still watch it couldn't care less then and still don't now, the only angle they're interested in is the one of white on black racism which I'm struggling to see. At worst, it looks like incompetence and bad practice due to duration of being knelt on.
 
In a country where everyone could reasonably assumed to be armed, it's I think it's understandable the cops here didn't let him up. I think Floyd should be been cuffed and put in the recovery position personally.
 
In a country where everyone could reasonably assumed to be armed, it's I think it's understandable the cops here didn't let him up. I think Floyd should be been cuffed and put in the recovery position personally.
I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't have been arrested and placed in handcuffs. What people do have an issue with is having a knee on his neck for nearly 9 minutes including after he'd become unresponsive and continuing to do so even after Paramedics arrived and were checking for a pulse.
 
But those that do die in Police Custody the majority are black.

The majority of deaths in police custody are white people, not black. When you look at the number of black people in custody vs population, there is certainly an imbalance.

That imbalance could be as a result of many different things, like poverty, education and upbringing etc etc.

Again though you can't pin it on any specific thing as a multitude of factors apply and of those that are often used to label the black community, they are often the same things that could apply to any other community, hispanic, whites, asian etc.
 
But those that do die in Police Custody the majority are black.

No they're not - why do people post stuff like this?

The majority of deaths in police custody are white people, not black. When you look at the number of black people in custody vs population, there is certainly an imbalance.

That imbalance could be as a result of many different things, like poverty, education and upbringing etc etc.

In the case of the UK there is quite a simple explanation for most of it, there are more black people in police custody relative to the general population! Black people are circa 3% of the population but 10% of crime suspects are black.

When you actually look at deaths in comparison to portion who end up in custody then in fact you'll find it is white people who die in custody at a higher rate in the UK - perhaps more white smack heads or others with health conditions, perhaps black suspects are younger and fitter etc..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

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No they're not - why do people post stuff like this?



In the case of the UK there is quite a simple explanation for most of it, there are more black people in police custody relative to the general population! Black people are circa 3% of the population but 10% of crime suspects are black.

When you actually look at deaths in comparison to portion who end up in custody then in fact you'll find it is white people who die in custody at a higher rate in the UK - perhaps more white smack heads or others with health conditions, perhaps black suspects are younger and fitter etc..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

Sorry I was referring to the US, not the UK.
 
Sorry I was referring to the US, not the UK.

Your statement is the opposite of true in the USA as well.

The majority of people who die in custody in the USA are "white". It's just that it's very fashionable to believe that their lives don't matter because they're an inferior race. Very ugly racism and you've fallen for its propaganda.
 
Your statement is the opposite of true in the USA as well.

The majority of people who die in custody in the USA are "white". It's just that it's very fashionable to believe that their lives don't matter because they're an inferior race. Very ugly racism and you've fallen for its propaganda.
Well I stand corrected then. How does it work out in percentages do you know? Do more blacks arrested die in custody as a percentage compared to whites?
 
Well I stand corrected then. How does it work out in percentages do you know? Do more blacks arrested die in custody as a percentage compared to whites?

Why not stop making yourself look a complete fool and do the research yourself?
 
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