Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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The expert testimony is that the Fentanyl wasn't in sufficient quantities in his system, to cause death. Furthermore - death from Fentanyl normally causes someone to literally fall asleep and die, essentially - the behaviour of George Floyd, wasn't consistent with someone about to die from Fentanyl.
Whether the defence will field an expert witness with equal or superior drug/toxicology experience, to 'overrule' the prosecution expert with opposing evidence, remains to be seen.
Ouch.
Prosecution expert medical witness (pathologist) currently under cross examination by the defence surrounding the condition of George Floyd's heart, she was asked a hypothetical question:
"If you found Mr Floyd dead in his residence, alone, without any police, drugs or other circumstances, what would you rule to be the cause of death" and her answer was "due to his heart disease"
Prosecution expert medical witness (pathologist) currently under cross examination by the defence surrounding the condition of George Floyd's heart, she was asked a hypothetical question:
"If you found Mr Floyd dead in his residence, alone, without any police, drugs or other circumstances, what would you rule to be the cause of death" and her answer was "due to his heart disease"
Guy who did the autopsy has commented something similar btw... albeit with drugs.
Will certainly be interesting to see the medical experts the defence brings in.
I posted in a Facebook BBC thread earlier saying unless it's premeditated and beyond reasonable doubt it has to be manslaughter.
Literally got 80 comments I was a Nazi, racist etc etc.
This is the best press hijacking since..... Ever maybe?
Literally got 80 comments I was a Nazi, racist etc etc.
This is the best press hijacking since..... Ever maybe?
How strong does a possible cause of death need to be before a relevant expert will rule it as the cause of death rather than stating that the cause of death is unknown?
Two other things that could be a cause of death (potentially fatal heart disease and a potentially fatal combination of drugs) should go a very long way to establishing reasonable doubt that Chauvin killed Floyd at all, let alone with intent. It'll be interesting to see if the prosecution challenges it or decides that they can't challenge it and will be better off ignoring it and hoping that the jury does too.
Not ever. There was as bad or worse during some times of really extreme persecution. Like, for example, Nazi Germany. The people calling you a Nazi for mentioning the definition of "murder" are reacting in the same way as actual Nazis did and they're too brainwashed to notice what they're doing. Another example would be during periods of persecution of heretics - anyone who said anything other than "DEATH TO HERETICS!" would be condemned by the raging mobs and the church. Or witch hunts. Etc. It's part and parcel of persecution and baying mobs. The media might play a bigger role nowadays, but only because it's more powerful due to advances in comms tech.
Not sure - though the medical examiner who did the autopsy is on the stand currently, could be some interesting updates from that (though haven't watched nor have time to watch all of it).
Part that stood out for me was, I believe I heard it anyway (on in background not watching intently) was the prosecution asked if there was any sigh of damage to the heart or brain he could find from lack of oxygen and he said no.
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That's a pretty damning statement,
Did DCs knee anatomically restrict GFs airway.
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Did DCs knee anatomically restrict GFs airway.
No.
Also testified he has certified people as dying from the same physiological conditions as found in Floyd. And that the part of the heart that regulates your heartbeat electrically was on the side with the 90% constriction.
Sounds like reasonable doubt.
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Maybe its just me, but I thought that guy looked very much on edge the whole time.
I wonder if the media will cover this stuff.
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Probably nervous for his safety after giving evidence in support of Chauvin.
I can certainly see some reasonable doubt from that testimony tbh...
I guess on one hand yes it probably is going to make him nervous if his testimony aides in Chauvin avoiding the two most serious charges on the other hand he's not going to sit there and put his professional reputation on the line by lying etc..
I guess on one hand yes it probably is going to make him nervous if his testimony aides in Chauvin avoiding the two most serious charges on the other hand he's not going to sit there and put his professional reputation on the line by lying etc..
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He also said meth causing all manner of issues for people with heart problems and in GFs case, with small arteries and hypertension his heart would have been racing and his body unable to supply enough oxygen to it.
Seems like murder to me. Some of you are getting too much caught in it. End of the day he did not remove his knee despite knowing he was unconscious, showed no remorse and did not perform cpr.
If that's not murder I don't know what is.
Manslaughter if he removed his knee soon as he knew unconscious and did cpr but he still died, plus shown remorse.
If that's not murder I don't know what is.
Manslaughter if he removed his knee soon as he knew unconscious and did cpr but he still died, plus shown remorse.
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