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This is ocuk.
It's obvious he intentionally stopped breathing to try and get the white police officer in trouble.
No other narrative will make sense to the usual suspects on here.
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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This is ocuk.
It's obvious he intentionally stopped breathing to try and get the white police officer in trouble.
No other narrative will make sense to the usual suspects on here.
Think the prosecution just shot themself in the foot with that final cross.
That all the factors covered were all contributory factors to Mr Floyds death during his arrest.
It pretty much on its own clears the murder charges.
I think next week they will be focusing on the negligence side for the manslaughter charge as pretty much every expert they have called under cross from the defense has done severe damage to the prosecutions case.
Second-degree murder
Any intentional murder with malice aforethought, but is not premeditated or planned.
Aka, did Chauvin when he put Floyd on the floor decide he wanted to kill or severely harm him? Given his restraint techniques were all ones taught by his police force, and he took no action which constricted the airway, nor were the carotid arteries cut off/restricted, its doubtful this would stick. I've highlighted the key word.
third-degree murder
That all the factors covered were all contributory factors to Mr Floyds death during his arrest.
It pretty much on its own clears the murder charges.
I think next week they will be focusing on the negligence side for the manslaughter charge as pretty much every expert they have called under cross from the defense has done severe damage to the prosecutions case.
Second-degree murder
Any intentional murder with malice aforethought, but is not premeditated or planned.
Aka, did Chauvin when he put Floyd on the floor decide he wanted to kill or severely harm him? Given his restraint techniques were all ones taught by his police force, and he took no action which constricted the airway, nor were the carotid arteries cut off/restricted, its doubtful this would stick. I've highlighted the key word.
third-degree murder
without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing] the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life
Again unlikely to stick as the restraint techniques were all ones taught by his police force, and compounded by the testimony of Floyds poor health as contributory factors. It could be argued had they shoved him in the back of the car he would have died from the stress of the altercation also.
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And based on that alone, its a miracle he even survived this long, when an artery is so severely restricted (75% & 90%) which can cause sudden death anyway. Coupled with his serious heart condition and the drugs taken, he was literally a ticking time bomb just waiting to go off.
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It really is quite remarkable how fascinated people (presumably in the UK) are in a trial in the USA.
Almost as remarkable as people's desperate desire to see the Police Officer acquitted - VERY ODD
Almost as remarkable as people's desperate desire to see the Police Officer acquitted - VERY ODD
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Indeed, a time bomb aggravated by incompetent policing.
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LOL StockhausenIt really is quite remarkable how fascinated people (presumably in the UK) are in a trial in the USA.
Almost as remarkable as people's desperate desire to see the Police Officer acquitted - VERY ODD
Almost as remarkable as people's desperate desire to see the Police Officer acquitted - VERY ODD
Do you not understand the concept of reasonable doubt, or have you just ignored the testimony brought out by the defense on cross examination?
Almost as remarkable as people's desperate desire to see the Police Officer acquitted - VERY ODD
Why is it odd? Are you suggesting this officer should be banged up without a fair trial?
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Yep. That officer had a duty of care to render aid as soon as he noticed the person he detained was unresponsive. If he suspected the person was overdosing he has Narcan spray that will counteract opioids. He clearly didn't think that because he didn't act. Its amazing reading this thread, so many rooting for this cop. Floyd's history is irrelevant, he isn't on trial here. He was apprehended on suspicion of using a counterfeit $20 note. That is not a death sentence offence. There was an EMT begging to render aid and he refused to let them. The man is a scum bag who gave zero ***** about the life he took that day. He is supposed to protect the public and that includes people he detains. He is supposed to be the good guy.
The only thing that matters is the narrative. Not your pesky facts.
When I fist saw the clips and read the headlines, I was angry at the police.
Then the trial starts and I start learning important information that the media should have made into headlines but instead buried.
Now I'm angry with the media and their BS.
Unfortunately, the exculpatory evidence/testimony just isn't getting the coverage it deserves. Still, people in this thread need to stop pretending they are unaware of it.
He said it BEFORE anyone did anything to his neck. (or sholder blade depending on which camera angle you are looking at)
Neither of which have been a headline that I'm aware of.
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I work on my own so and able to listen to lots of podcasts. These include some hosted by or with guests that are former federal prosecutors. All of them are saying the prosecution has an incredibly strong case and they'd be very confident of a conviction on what they've heard so far, as of yesterday. So I could listen to a bunch of laymen on a tech forum or people who did this for a living in the country this trail in taking place in. Let's not forget these are prosectors that spent their careers working hand in hand with the police, so its not like they have some anti police agenda.
I've seen lots of posts in here saying he basically had it coming. No one deserves to die for a dodgy $20 note. That cop didn't give a damn, he could have stopped kneeling on him at any point but refused to do so even after he stopped breathing.
from the evidence today he died for a life of substance abuse and health issues.
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Have you seen any of the exculpatory evidence/testimony?
I don't *know* that he died from that, but it would be reasonable to think he may have.
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I've seen the original videos. I don't work from home and I'm working so I can't watch it. These people are watching it everyday though, they also understand the US legal system like none of us do. I'll trust their opinion over anyone on this forum.
Ergo reasonable doubt...
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