The jury would be discharged if it cannot come to a decision and the prosecution could set up another case with a different jury.
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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The jury would be discharged if it cannot come to a decision and the prosecution could set up another case with a different jury.
Indeed, very risky play, and ultimately nothing that added to the prosecutions case.
I was also somewhat surprised at the defense resting their case. Having said that their experts were considerably more impactful, talking about real world situations and not freeze frame hypotheticals.
Nothing new now until Monday when the closing statements are made and we find out any instructions to judge gives.
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The trouble with getting experts in is that if it is for the prosecution you are viewed as a hero while if it is for the defence you are viewed as a money grabbing racist. I think only retired experts have evidence for the defence which makes sense.
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Not sure.
The judge specifically warned the Prosecution not to refer to test results as that could result in a mistrial, and also instructed them that the witness should not refer to them. The witness seemed to immediately refer to them.
The judge specifically warned the Prosecution not to refer to test results as that could result in a mistrial, and also instructed them that the witness should not refer to them. The witness seemed to immediately refer to them.
This was the fine line, the results he referenced were the results entered into evidence (which looked at oxygen saturation). And then extrapolated the inferred maximum CO level. He didnt mention the test for the CO levels, which was what wasnt entered.
Had he said "the test for the CO level said..." then yes it would have been mistrial.
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Indeed, just before the trial started the BBC actually referred to Chauvin as "George Floyd's murderer" in the headline of an article on the website.
They haven't even pretended to be impartial. They've been pushing his guilt in all their "coverage" of the trial. They've been steering their readership to believe Chauvin is guilty, even at times attempting to discredit defence witnesses.
Raised some eyebrows, but I think many of us are coming to expect this from the BBC now. They have moved from reporting the news to trying to manipulate public opinion, much like the tabloids.
Yeah, they stopped doing quality reporting years ago, they just care about traffic and clicks.
Just look at some of the articles in the top ten BBC pages on any given day, some of them are total trash.
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Having watched the full body cam footage, sadly he brought it on himself.
- difficult from the very start when approached in the vehicle he was in.
- breathing fine in said vehicle and no signs of distress from being in enclosed environment.
- repeatedly claiming not being able to breathe when no one was anywhere near his neck.
- if he had sat in the police vehicle like he was repeatedly requested to do he'd still be here.
- crook knew his times was up and decided to take whatever roll of the dice he was trying in vein to resist arrest.
- difficult from the very start when approached in the vehicle he was in.
- breathing fine in said vehicle and no signs of distress from being in enclosed environment.
- repeatedly claiming not being able to breathe when no one was anywhere near his neck.
- if he had sat in the police vehicle like he was repeatedly requested to do he'd still be here.
- crook knew his times was up and decided to take whatever roll of the dice he was trying in vein to resist arrest.
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But all what he said is factual.
Just do as you're told and all will be ok.
I see you haven't said a word about the white guy getting shot.
Any reason for this?
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Derek Chauvin shot a white guy?
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He chose to be a crook so my sympathy is limited. I don't really see it as any different than death by misadventure, he took a risk and it didn't pay off for him. He had ample opportunity to comply but continued to resist and cause matters to escalate. As for the officer it depends if he was following the training laid down by his organisation as to whether it was his specific fault or not. You could also argue that the officer was placed in that position due to the suspect resisting arrest. None of his fellow officers appeared to suggest he back off or offered to take over so the procedure did not appear to be disproportionate as far as anyone close enough was able to assess. I'm not in favour of the neck hold but if it's in their police training then its potentially an institutional failing that it hasn't been replaced with something else to appropriately immobilise a suspect with less risk of disproportionate force being used if indeed it was in this particular case.
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So you never heard on your cnn channel about a white guy killed by black cops?
Where is the uproar and protests from you lot?
So does the level of force, the restraint used and eventual death of GF for passing a counterfeit note, of which he may not have even been aware was counterfeit, sit Ok with you? He wasn’t a mass murderer on a shooting spree, he didn’t rob a bank with an AR15, he passed a counterfeit bill. Because I certainly think the Officer massively overreacted, had a distinct lack of concern, did not take his duty of care in any way seriously and even when paramedics were on scene he still didn’t remove his knee from his neck despite there being no pulse. All while GF was face down and handcuffed. To me that’s a gross dereliction of a police officers duty and while perhaps not murder is at least manslaughter.
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