Destory all Gatso Cameras

[TW]Fox said:
I don't. The area in question has no such junctions - just a regular sliproad infact.

Fair enough...just thought about it, and you'd probably use the A38, and not the main A30, as you'd be going M5 > Exeter > Plymouth, rather than headed towards central Cornwall anyways. :)

InvG
 
Why are people so worked up by a machine which is there to discourage speeding, which kills. It makes money for the govt which you all hate, but perhaps you should just not speed, just not get fined, and then you wont feel so angry as to vandalise the cameras lol
 
Antecer said:
Why are people so worked up by a machine which is there to discourage speeding, which kills. It makes money for the govt which you all hate, but perhaps you should just not speed, just not get fined, and then you wont feel so angry as to vandalise the cameras lol
/gets popcorn
 
[TW]Fox said:
I don't. The area in question has no such junctions - just a regular sliproad infact.


I know the one


the slip road even creates a new lane, so no merging is even necessary!!


bloody annoying that camera is - you're right (:o) everyone does 60 through it
 
:D well doesn't seem like there is a simply answer to why they are hated so much, to the point of being vandalised. The arguments used against them hold very little weight from what I've heard, but I'd be very open to hearing a justified argument to why they deserve to be vandalised.

edit: People are really going to work on those gatsos, looking at the photos some of them are seriously ****** up, hate runs deep for this things? :eek:
 
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Stormrider said:
pass some here, this could be good.

Ya think?

It hasn't been the last 2,759 times, but I'll probably watch anyway :)

(scratches head)

Maybe I could run a book on the outcome? :D

Alan Woodford
 
The_Dark_Side said:
they don't "thieve" you're money.
some of "you" (self included) are daft enough to GIVE it to them.

We dont have them in fife, but I fight the cause for our poor peeps anyway :p
 
The chavs have actually started doing something I approve of :D

Speed cameras ONLY make money for the pigs who run this country. Anyone who tries to claim they make the road a safer place requires mental medical attention and a lesson on common sense.
 
Tommy B said:
The chavs have actually started doing something I approve of :D

Speed cameras ONLY make money for the pigs who run this country. Anyone who tries to claim they make the road a safer place requires mental medical attention and a lesson on common sense.

100% agree. Speed in itself does not cause accidents/deaths etc, bad driving does. What we need are mobile officers like we used to have who can caution the good drivers and prosecute the bad ones.
 
Antecer said:
Why are people so worked up by a machine which is there to discourage speeding, which kills. It makes money for the govt which you all hate, but perhaps you should just not speed, just not get fined, and then you wont feel so angry as to vandalise the cameras lol

Personally speaking, I don't have issue with the cameras, you get caught by one you have no reason to these days with Satnav or the "person in front who thinks he is the law" etc.

However, I will put to you my standard argument against their site criteria which has got to be flawed and is what makes them nothing more than a money grabbing system from an already heavily taxed source and is a large driving factor in the damage I am sure.

If indeed (as you claim) that speed is the killer (not the use of it when you are not paying proper care/attention) and that the worst place you could possibly want to have the potential to be a killer is where there is a highly vulnerable group of people that are likely to wander into the road.
Why is it that outside every single school crossing, busy out of town area, playpark, old peoples home or hospital that there is no speed camera?
Why is it that cameras are consistently re-sited due to their lack of income? I can show you two sites just on roads that I drive frequently to show this to be the case.

If it was indeed that SAFETY is the primary driving force behind camera placements then why are they only put in MONEY generating areas.
If it was indeed that SAFETY is the primary reasons for cameras then why are they often hidden from view on blind bends. Surely the idea of a visable deterent against speeding is what makes them safety devices? How does it help the person who drives through an area on a one off visit (and therefore the pedestrian who cant be bothered to look after their own safety anymore - but thats a different matter entirely) that he should be careful here because its possibly an accident blackspot if the camera is not sited in that location because it brings no money in? Only when he arrives home and gets his NIP does he realise, ah right there was a camera hidden on that bridge inside the unmarked transit van, wonder why that was there? Road was clear, straight, wide etc?

Sorry for the ramble, but I felt it needed it to get the point across.
No I dont care about cameras, I care about their badging as "Safety" devices when they are not. I care about the roads being safe, but not through deceitful tactics, stick a bloody sign up that just says "You drive over 40mph here, you are going to die!"
 
Some good points and also, why the hell are they on motorways. It disgusts me. I can appreciate why they'd put them in residential areas, but not on ******* motorways.
 
Tommy B said:
Some good points and also, why the hell are they on motorways. It disgusts me. I can appreciate why they'd put them in residential areas, but not on ******* motorways.

There are no GATSO's on Motorways are there?
 
DAvE18 said:
We dont have them in fife, but I fight the cause for our poor peeps anyway :p
but there's no cause to fight mate.
it's not like it's an impossibility to drive a car and NOT be snapped.
if you're trying to obey the limit then you won't be caught, assuming you actually have enough of the required skills to hold a driving license.
if you're intentionally breaking the limit then at some point you'll be snapped.
if you have substandard observational skills then at some point you'll be snapped.

it's not something that's out of our hands, it's our choice as to whether we receive our NIP.
 
The_Dark_Side said:
but there's no cause to fight mate.


While I understand what your saying and can see your point that if you get caught you deserve it, I would rather they put more officers in patrol cars and traffic police to catch the bad drivers and the speeder, where discretion is used.

I just think machines are soulless and a lot more officers would be much better.
 
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