** Diablo 4 Thread **

MadMossy said:
It's not like they would admit "oops one of our engineers tripped over a server cable and damaged a router which had to be replaced"

For a DDOS to take place the attacker would require an IP address, which can be obfuscated with a VPN. So I'm sure there are things that can be done to ensure a DDOS cannot ever take place on vital services.

Obviously they could have all of these systems in place to prevent a DDOS, but if there is a flaw in their own software, then is it anyones fault but their own?
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If it were so easy, DDoS mitigation would not be the multimillion dollar industry it is.
Game server IP addresses are really easy to learn - just start the game and see where it connects.
Then traceroute to it, and pick a likely common point between all the servers (peering point etc), and unleash the botz. It's most likely not even reaching the servers, but an upstream link is completely saturated. A pipe can only handle so much, and scrubbing legit traffic out from spam traffic is often non-trivial.
 
It's not that simple, the primary defense against DDoS attacks involves recognising the attack patterns and diffusing the traffic to reduce the load on the targeted servers. For this, systems like firewalls, load balancers, and content delivery networks are typically used. However, sophisticated attackers are continually developing new strategies to bypass these defenses.

Secondly, while redundancy is another countermeasure, it also has limitations. Blizzard will have backup servers to handle additional traffic, but if the DDoS attack volume is massive enough, it can overwhelm even those systems.

It's not necessarily a reflection of negligence or poor planning on Blizzard's part. Cybersecurity is a complex and very few if any systems in the world are 100% secure.
 
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MadMossy said:
Shock horror, people that the play the game more, experience more of the games content, warts and all.

For those still playing the game and enjoying it, great the game is awesome until around level 70, then it becomes stale as the grind basically remains the same, helltides or dungeons thats about it for ~50 levels.
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yeah - lvl 62 - grind is real now - not had anything that upgrades me since about lvl 50. (playing Necro)....

Need to grind a few dungeons now I guess but trying to tell myself to start a new character to play with something else.
 
Ayahuasca said:
It's not that simple, the primary defense against DDoS attacks involves recognising the attack patterns and diffusing the traffic to reduce the load on the targeted servers. For this, systems like firewalls, load balancers, and content delivery networks are typically used. However, sophisticated attackers are continually developing new strategies to bypass these defenses.

Secondly, while redundancy is another countermeasure, it also has limitations. Blizzard will have backup servers to handle additional traffic, but if the DDoS attack volume is massive enough, it can overwhelm even those systems.

It's not necessarily a reflection of negligence or poor planning on Blizzard's part. Cybersecurity is a complex and very few if any systems in the world are 100% secure.
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Yeah to some degree there is only so much they can do, but a problems only as complex as you make it. If a specific ip address is targetted, change it. I know its pretty much impossible to trace them, so they may never know where it has originated from but these attacks have been frequent so there must be multiple flaws in their systems to exploit.
 
MadMossy said:
Yeah to some degree there is only so much they can do, but a problems only as complex as you make it. If a specific ip address is targetted, change it. I know its pretty much impossible to trace them, so they may never know where it has originated from but these attacks have been frequent so there must be multiple flaws in their systems to exploit.
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The DDoS generally doesn't overwhelm the target, but rather network routes towards the target nowadays. Even changing IP wouldn't necessarily change the router/link 4 hops up from your endpoint, and if that's the bottleneck - good night
 
How to level up quickly? I played for hours last night grinding out Lilith statues etc and got from 54-55. It feels so slow. Do you just have to live in dungeons?
 
I don't buy the DDOS attack either, unless it's a side effect of another larger service being attacked. Usually some nerd group will boast about the DDOS or it's done for a precise reason.
 
MadMossy said:
Yeah to some degree there is only so much they can do, but a problems only as complex as you make it. If a specific ip address is targetted, change it. I know its pretty much impossible to trace them, so they may never know where it has originated from but these attacks have been frequent so there must be multiple flaws in their systems to exploit.
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This clearly demonstrates a basic misunderstanding of the nature of these attacks.

There's no real incentive for companies to falsify information about DDOS attacks. Such incidents are fairly common among major businesses, and there is a community of tech-savvy individuals capable of verifying the authenticity of these claims.

There are more than enough people who have contempt for Activision|Blizzard, so it's not like there needs to be some ulterior motive. There are definitely individuals or groups of people who want to disrupt the service on a game that's always online and has a ridiculous number of players at the moment.
 
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Rroff said:
That sounds ****, completely ignores part of the fun of these kind of games. Too many games now seem to be designed with cynical mechanics and trying to push people down planned paths :(
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I agree but at the same time i guess it stops people from farming the same uniques over and over again, but this in turn drags everything out so badly to the point where some people just cba.
 
mingey said:
Max NM I did was a 43, drops was no better than normal, I just run 30ish ones now as they are the same difficulty as normals with gear and paragon unlocking, although paragon had a big impact on the higher 80 levels as damage ramped to crits in the 2-3 million.
Happy to run any one through a few ( Tatty) in game
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Was it you who got the max rolled chest unique with 10k thorns yesterday? I ran Helltide with Ironman (Lordkimbo) yesterday and he got the same chest piece!
 
MooMoo444 said:
How to level up quickly? I played for hours last night grinding out Lilith statues etc and got from 54-55. It feels so slow. Do you just have to live in dungeons?
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Nightmare dungeons, helltide and capstone are great for xp. Obviously you wouldn't do capstone till much later but nightmare dungeons are great and helltide for smashing out large numbers of xp quickly.
 
Jay85 said:
Was it you who got the max rolled chest unique with 10k thorns yesterday? I ran Helltide with Ironman (Lordkimbo) yesterday and he got the same chest piece!
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Yeah I got one of the razorplates, gonna pop in on a sec and grab the 2 chests from helltide time permitting.
 
Ayahuasca said:
This clearly demonstrates a basic misunderstanding of the nature of these attacks.

There's no real incentive for companies to falsify information about DDOS attacks. Such incidents are fairly common among major businesses, and there is a community of tech-savvy individuals capable of verifying the authenticity of these claims.

There are more than enough people who have contempt for Activision|Blizzard, so it's not like there needs to be some ulterior motive. There are definitely individuals or groups of people who want to disrupt the service on a game that's always online and has a ridiculous number of players at the moment.
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There's always a reason for a company to lie about something, and it almost always boils down to one thing. Money.

If they said our technical staff are idiots they'd take a knock on their share price most likely, but a DDoS attack well those happen to everyone so it's an easy get out clause. Much like how many use the, brexit or covid or what ever other excuse they can to avoid the truth.
 
That just reads like complete whataboutery tbh, and again doesn't show any understanding of DDoS attacks.

It's their fastest-selling game of all time, they don't need to make up BS about their servers being DDoS'd.

Although it was a while ago when it happened and things have moved on a bit since then, it shows how serious it is: https://www.eurogamer.net/hacker-kn...ced-to-jail-for-world-of-warcraft-ddos-attack

It would be stupid of them to claim it's a DDoS attack if it's not, when it's a federal offence.
 
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ColdAsIce said:
Probably the usual nooby mistake. Loads of skills with zero synergy. Actually look at the ability tree and try to plan out a build. Plus learn to dodge boss attacks <3 GL
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Havent actually got many skills lol i just focused on levelling up my basic skills to start with, think i have 2 skills apart from the basic skills
 
Ayahuasca said:
That just reads like complete whataboutery tbh, and again doesn't show any understanding of DDoS attacks.

It's their fastest-selling game of all time, they don't need to make up BS about their servers being DDoS'd.

Although it was a while ago when it happened and things have moved on a bit since then, it shows how serious it is: https://www.eurogamer.net/hacker-kn...ced-to-jail-for-world-of-warcraft-ddos-attack

It would be stupid of them to claim it's a DDoS attack if it's not, when it's a federal offence.
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I'm skeptical of Blizzard, and I understand the basics of what a DDoS attack is, distributed denial of service attacks are pretty much self explanatory, do I know the intricacies and nuances of exactly how they function, no because it's not my field of expertise, is it yours?

It's a good thing we have had 2 days of maintenace for 5+ hours though. Convenient timing.
 
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MadMossy said:
I'm skeptical of Blizzard, and I understand the basics of what a DDoS attack is, distributed denial of service attacks are pretty much self explanatory, do I know the intricacies and nuances of exactly how they function, no because it's not my field of expertise, is it yours?

It's a good thing we have had 2 days of maintenace for 5+ hours though. Convenient timing.
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I wouldn't say DDoS attacks are my area of expertise, but I do work in IT and have a pretty good understanding of how difficult they can be to deal with.

From your responses above, it was clear that you didn't really know what you were talking about, given some of your "suggestions".
 
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