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Difference between Conroe + pentium D?

Gashman said:
i love all these debates about processors, since non make a single bit of difference, im running 4400+ at 2.8Ghz and my best mate runs smithfield at 3.2Ghz, and theres absolutely NO difference at all in gameplay in any game we've played on, yeah sure maybe a few FPS here and there, but you don't notice it! core, K8, netburst, who really notices any difference in games, or is it just 'i got the fastest PC' rights :p
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Its all about the bigger e-peen baby ;)

(conroe IS a big jump in performance - you are comparing two older gen cpu's)

At OP, why ignore the advice??? The conroe is clearly the superior chip in every way and was only a few quid more. :confused:
 
i know its a big jump in performance, its just the way you get called an idiot basically on here for going down any other path than LGA775 and conroe at this time, i remember not long ago your were an 'idiot' for choosing anything other than 939 and K8 though netburst CPUs were still perfectly capable of running all games around, i don't see why people MUST jump onboard with conroe and the hype, hell people are making it sound like the processor has JUST been invented, 'everything else is a pocket calculator by comparison, conroe beats K8 by 900% in some case' when really its exactly the same as the jump from K7 to K8, which offered rather large performance increases but nothing 'remarkable' :confused:
 
used to have a Pentium4 630 @ 3GHz ( default ). Using DVD Shrink with deep analysis enabled, took a good 40 minutes to squash a full DVD ( read extracted vobs from hard-disk, write squashed vobs to hard-disk )
The 630 btw, ran about 65C load i think ( via motherboard sensor, so thats more like 75-80 on the core ) using stock cooler


Using my current Core2Duo E6300 @ 3.2GHz will squash that same DVD down in about 8 minutes.

I wonder which one was faster for that :-)
lol
 
isnt the £115 c2d actually an allendale and not a conroe ? :confused:

ive been looking at it as it would save me 100 quid so i could get a new creative soundcard ot hdd....

are allendale still good for gaming ?
 
Porsche911r101 said:
{snip}are allendale still good for gaming ?
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Wikipedia said:
For a very long time, it was considered that stripped down versions of the Conroe processors were code-named Allendale. In actuality, Allendale is a code-name for a different processor. Many suggest that E6300 and E6400 are actually code-named Allendale, however, the E6300 (1.86 GHz) and E6400 (2.13 GHz) processors are not code-named Allendale because they physically have 4 MB cache, same as their big brothers E6600 and E6700 - it is just that half of their physical memory is disabled. Traditionally, CPUs of the same family with less cache simply have the unavailable cache disabled (this allows parts that fail quality control to be sold at a lower rating). The fact that E6300 and E6400 are not code-named Allendale and actually code-named Conroe has been confirmed by Intel themselves.

Quoted from The Tech Report:
'You'll find plenty of sources that will tell you the code name for these 2 MB Core 2 Duo processors is "Allendale," but Intel says otherwise. These CPUs are still code-named "Conroe," which makes sense since they're the same physical chips with half of their L2 cache disabled. Intel may well be cooking up a chip code-named Allendale with 2 MB of L2 cache natively, but this is not that chip.'

The real Allendale processors, including the E4300, will be released during Q1 2007.
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LOL @ OP :rolleyes: Would have suggested you compare the chips here first :( But, at the end of the day its your money/power bill/etc :)
 
beast said:
Well, I ignored all the advice :rolleyes: :p Got a D 945 for £95. I'll just keep it for a year, then the faster conroe chips will have come down in price and of course AMD will have well and truly waded in with their version. :)

Oh - what's the 950? I have a 945 with the 800fsb, what's the difference or are they the same thing?
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You are a foolish person, many people here has given their advice and not to mention, useful advice in buying the conroe chip. But up to you anyway, if you can justify paying £20 less for much lousier performance, so be it.
 
The poorest conroe, when overclocked, is pretty much comparable to a pentium D @ 6 ghz or more, you made the wong choise, pentium d's pretty much suck....
 
The power, the POWER :( The nuclear reactor is going to be running a little hotter for another year.

Its not that much like the K7-K8 launch, or even the P4-P3 (initial P4s were slow compared to Tualtin P3s). The Conroe is a significantly faster processor, the biggest performance jump I've seen in many, many years. If you factor in overclocking, its probably the biggest release ever short of those Celerons that used to clock like crazy and would work in the Abit BP6 (dual P3 board).
 
snowdog said:
The poorest conroe, when overclocked, is pretty much comparable to a pentium D @ 6 ghz or more, you made the wong choise, pentium d's pretty much suck....
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Do they? I'd have to dissagree with you, I'm very happy with my 950, it stonks along quite nicely and runs quite cool.
 
Steve, can you answer my question post in this section? as you have almost the same chip as me. what temp does it show normally? mine's 80c and wondering if that's okay?
 
SteveOBHave said:
Do they? I'd have to dissagree with you, I'm very happy with my 950, it stonks along quite nicely and runs quite cool.
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ummn, P4s arn't cool.


1.83ghz C2D is about 3.6/3.8ghz P4.

So at 3.525Ghz my E6600 is about 7/8ghz P4.

No AMD chip keep up, so no P4s are going to.

And I did feel a difference at 1600x1200 between this C2D and a X2 at stock.

He bought the wrong processor. It was extremely silly.
 
beast said:
Steve, can you answer my question post in this section? as you have almost the same chip as me. what temp does it show normally? mine's 80c and wondering if that's okay?
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80c?! What program are you using or is that a BIOS reading?
 
beast said:
Steve, can you answer my question post in this section? as you have almost the same chip as me. what temp does it show normally? mine's 80c and wondering if that's okay?
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can you tell us why you went ahead against everyones advice and brought such a god awfull cpu please as I like to hear your reasoning behind it :confused:, and of course 80c is not OK, but then these cpu's are known for running hot.
 
I tell you what, it was probably the right decision for this guy. He obviously doesnt care about how fast it is and he saved himself a tenner or whatever. He isnt an overclocker and probably would never notice any increase in performance anyway. No loss and a tenner to spend down the chippy, result.
 
silversurfer said:
I tell you what, it was probably the right decision for this guy. He obviously doesnt care about how fast it is and he saved himself a tenner or whatever. He isnt an overclocker and probably would never notice any increase in performance anyway. No loss and a tenner to spend down the chippy, result.
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But twice the heat and power usage which will probably stack enough enough to have paid the C2D anyway.

it was a stupid buy. End of.
 
Gashman said:
i know its a big jump in performance, its just the way you get called an idiot basically on here for going down any other path than LGA775 and conroe at this time, i remember not long ago your were an 'idiot' for choosing anything other than 939 and K8 though netburst CPUs were still perfectly capable of running all games around.
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I'm not going to call people idiots, but i think that it does not make sense to NOT get the best processor architecture available when you are upgrading, especially when the price is so close.
 
Double negative, argh
:D

Is the power difference really that great, your average consumer only uses their pc a couple hours a day. I just think this is a great example of market dynamics.
 
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