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This topic seems to have popped up again recently.

Here is just one article about it...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Blair sparks anger with plan for every Briton to get a 'digital ID'

The former prime minister, together with ex-Tory leader William Hague, has called on the Government to introduce a digital ID that people can have on their phones.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

I really see a need for companies to be to identify customers when they are paying for goods, logging in to accounts and so on.

There is a huge problem with identity theft at the moment and companies are becoming bogged down with security, not to mention the fact that customers are having to jump through more and more hoops to try to keep them satisfied. The number of security questions and steps is getting ridiculous.

As I recently found out, it can be a major inconvenience trying to prove who you are, and heaven help you if your passport has expired and the photo on your driving licence is out of date!

ID cards don't fulfil that need. The companies themselves seem unwilling to act. Much as though I am a huge fan of privacy, I do see the need for a digital ID.

What are your thoughts?
 
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SpellowHouse said:
This topic seems to have popped up again recently.

Here is just one article about it...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Blair sparks anger with plan for every Briton to get a 'digital ID'

The former prime minister, together with ex-Tory leader William Hague, has called on the Government to introduce a digital ID that people can have on their phones.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

I really see a need for companies to be to identify customers when they are paying for goods, logging in to accounts and so on.

There is a huge problem with identity theft at the moment and companies are becoming bogged down with security, not to mention the fact that customers are having to jump through more and more hoops to try to keep them satisfied. The number of security questions and steps is getting ridiculous.

As I recently found out, it can be a major inconvenience trying to prove who you are, and heaven help you if your passport has expired and the photo on your driving licence is out of date!

ID cards don't fulfil that need. The companies themselves seem unwilling to act. Much as though I am a huge fan of privacy, I do see the need for a digital ID.

What are your thoughts?
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Just don't change gender
 
Yeah I support ID.
- social media, porn, gambling, etc. should all be required to verify ID for access to protect children.
- people should be identifiable online so they are caught for crimes they commit. difficulty is some of this is international.
- voting should be done online, which obvs requires ID.

out of scope but:
- I would like some sense of who I'm talking to online. E.g. if someone starts arguing with me online I can't tell if they're an adult or a kid.
 
I support it. Doesn't make sense carrying around little pieces of plastic/paper for various things.

In Spain they already have the DGT app for carrying the essential documents for your car. Passport and ID card data is already stored digitally anyhow. Might as well just go the whole hog.

The problem with doing it in the UK is for some reason they spend 500x more than what something should cost. Have millions of consultations then either scrap the project, or go in half-hearted.
 
I support digital ID cards. I am happy to pass over my info. I would like to see a law along side it so it doesn’t get abused though. I.E if a website uses it to verify age the data is then deleted permanently after verification.

I already have a digital ID using Yoti.

It maybe beneficial to stop duplicate accounts or to identify people in law enforcement cases to protect to innocent.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
This topic seems to have popped up again recently.

Here is just one article about it...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Blair sparks anger with plan for every Briton to get a 'digital ID'

The former prime minister, together with ex-Tory leader William Hague, has called on the Government to introduce a digital ID that people can have on their phones.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

I really see a need for companies to be to identify customers when they are paying for goods, logging in to accounts and so on.

There is a huge problem with identity theft at the moment and companies are becoming bogged down with security, not to mention the fact that customers are having to jump through more and more hoops to try to keep them satisfied. The number of security questions and steps is getting ridiculous.

As I recently found out, it can be a major inconvenience trying to prove who you are, and heaven help you if your passport has expired and the photo on your driving licence is out of date!

ID cards don't fulfil that need. The companies themselves seem unwilling to act. Much as though I am a huge fan of privacy, I do see the need for a digital ID.

What are your thoughts?
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It is a one stop shop for an identity thief?
 
The government spend £37B on the failed NHS Test and Trace system. Other government inspired IT systems and ideas have either failed or gone massively over budget.

Whatever could go wrong with this system?!

Talking of Bullocks, I think I'll watch The Net tonight.
 
There is a hilarious trend that nightclubs around here are allowing where young persons take a picture of their ID then show this picture of their ID on their phone at the door.

A photo of an ID :D

I'm sure some people are absolutely gagging for another app on their phone to free them from the obligations of having an ID card.

But it is not as reliable. No charge, no signal, no bank cards, no ID.
 
Doesn't bother me, I already have passports, a driving licence,firearms certs etc with my face on, I'm pretty relaxed about the whole thing. Unfortunately this is the UK so...

peterwalkley said:
It will be a total cluster fudge of an overpriced, incredibly late and incomplete government IT project and, by design, a single point of failure for hackers and identity thieves to attack.
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As a libertarian I am against it for several reasons:

1) Most systems that governments have introduced have been insecure and inefficient. There is a big chance this will go wrong, be a waste of money or have unintended consequences.
2) It gives criminals a single place for identity theft.
3) It gives unfriendly states an easy target to cause chaos here.
4) Governments have shown they love taking more and more control. Once implemented, the need to use it will gradually increase over time. It will be like a wedge to open the door. At some point in the future you will need to register your online Id for every purchase including travel, food, everything. We simply don't know what future governments will do with it. A far left or far right government could use it to control dissent in a similar way to the Chinese use their social credit score to prevent unfavourable people moving around.

Put simply I don't trust the government (this or future ones). Large companies and the government already do a good job of knowing who I am. So I don't see the benefit of this system apart from a very small extra convenience at the risk of some very big issues.
 
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