DirectX 12

shankly1985 · 5 Apr 2014 at 12:19

Stanners said:
It's obvious why they are getting flustered, AMD do not support from what we know dx12 on as many previous generations as Nvidia. For some strange reason they feel the need to defend AMD by trashing Nvidia for this.

No I feel the need to defend a smart move from AMD not to support GPU line up that wouldn't have a good enough experience running a DX12 game.

What is the point? Lets support a HD 4950 but good look running BF6 in DX12 lol

shankly1985 · 5 Apr 2014 at 12:26

Boomstick777 said:
Didn't even consider that. Damn people aren't really this petty are they?

Most of us here will upgrade each gen at some point anyway. A petty mind is a small one..

Another point
They is a lot gamers out there that already find it hard to pick a new GPU. Will this one be ok, or will this one run this game etc you hear it all the time.

All Nvidia is doing is making the choice harder on some buyers "O cool a GTX4 it has DX12 this must run the latest and greatest"

shankly1985 · 5 Apr 2014 at 19:31

Lol ok

shankly1985 · 23 Jun 2014 at 21:29

Interesting indeed, so mantle could still be the go to api for the devs wanting more.

Said it before and I'll say it again, Mantle is going nowhere any time soon.

shankly1985 · 23 Jun 2014 at 23:07

opethdisciple said:
I agree with you. It's going absolutely nowhere!

Clever way to twist a post

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 09:32

MjFrosty said:
Mantle isn't on XB1

Talking about pc lol in a pc section.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 14:27

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I'd be surprised if less than about 47 of those 47 developers will use DX12 when it's available.

Your forgetting the fact Mantle and DX12 a very close to each other. Making porting Mantle to and from DX12 much easier than coming from dx11 to mantle. Speeding up development time and cost.

2015 is going to be a big year for PC gaming.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 14:34

Gregster said:
I personally can't see devs investing time and money in Mantle when DX12 is fully running unless there is some monetary compensation from AMD.

I can

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 14:46

ubersonic said:
Agreed, once ATi/Nvida were fully up and running with OpenGL and later Direct3D developers were quick to drop Glide as 3DFX could use OpenGL too so it was just wasted development. Likewise I can see the same happening to Mantle once DX12 is firing on all cylinders as AMD/Nvidia can both use it so why would anyone waste the extra time, unless AMD have cash on the table.

Because it will offer better performance, so any Dev wanting more can use Mantle. The Devs that already support Mantle dont need to pay anything they already have it in there game engines.

Making a new game now will be easier than before once DX12 and Mantle is running.

Take Crysis 4 DX12 to Mantle low cost and low time frame vice versa, then ported to PS4, Xbox one will already use DX12 so they already removed the Old API.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 14:52

PhysicsMan94 said:
Well, in that case, these generalized "game developers" you speak of can't make such a statement either given that they haven't even used D3D12 yet (it's not even been released to game developers for early testing use AFAIK).

They can because DX12 is Mantle lol just not as low level. Because DX12 needs to take into account for AMD/Nvidia GPUs it cant possibly give the same performance like something designed for one Architecture like Graphics Core Next

Devs talked about this couple weeks ago and am sure Humbug will find it.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:01

Rusty0611 said:
"DX12 is Mantle". lol

Prove to me other wise? because a lot of Devs on Twitter think other wise. Why you think its very easy for them to port from one and other? Because there very much alike.

Sure Microsoft will agree with you

Think i'll believe the Devs before anything else.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:01

PhysicsMan94 said:
No, it is not.

Show me it isn't. and not from Microsoft because am sure they will agree with you.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:05

Gregster said:
Just say hypothetically I agree with you, then why would they still support Mantle if Mantle is DX12?

Because Mantle will offer Devs extra performance.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:06

Rusty0611 said:
That's not how proof works. You've made a claim - you prove it's true.

You made a claim it isn't

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:10

Gregster said:
You are saying Mantle is DX12 but Mantle will offer devs extra performance? That makes no sense. Surely if Mantle is DX12, then it will offer the same performance if it is the same thing?

Go back and read about supporting more GPUs and why mantle supporting one core will offer extra.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:14

I have what I believe and end off. Until proven wrong I will stand by it.
II don't have time digging around twitter to find the devs talking about it. But feel free.

shankly1985 · 30 Jun 2014 at 15:31

Ayahuasca said:
Really shankly?

That comes across as highly ignorant to be fair.

My bad if it did just p off today.

shankly1985 · 2 Oct 2014 at 11:38

Off-Topic Rubbish

Joking aside, am really liking the look of Windows 10, but to early for me to jump as my main OS
I do have spare SSD I could install on might do that over the weekend.

shankly1985 · 2 Oct 2014 at 11:49

Gregster said:
Yer, that is what I plan to do tonight after work. I have a spare 60GB SSD I will use for W10 and have a little play. Not expecting too much this early on but it will be good to get a feel of it.

Yeah my worry is just compatibility for use as my main OS. I understand Avast don't yet work and I stand by Avast a lot.
Driver not an issue as its more Windows 8 re-skin with tweaks i would say. AMD driver 14.9 comes pre-installed.

So I think its just security stopping me, and the what if this dont work etc.