DirectX and OpenGL will start offering low-level access in order to reduce draw overhead

Stanners · 11 Mar 2014 at 19:15

It will be another rambling sound demo

Final8y · 11 Mar 2014 at 19:37

stulid said:
Dual R9 card.

I hope so

gpuerrilla · 11 Mar 2014 at 19:43

Mei said:
thracks is unbelievably excited ><

Stanners said:
It will be another rambling sound demo

LtMatt said:

All lol's, thanks guys!

triss · 11 Mar 2014 at 19:51

Its the new top end cards ,, 290's were just a stopgap (now midrange) card to go against 780's and this new gen of cards will go against Maxwell....
Well i can hope cant i

Stanners · 11 Mar 2014 at 19:53

triss said:
Its the new top end cards ,, 290's were just a stopgap (now midrange) card to go against 780's and this new gen of cards will go against Maxwell....
Well i can hope cant i

That would be nice.

Orangey · 11 Mar 2014 at 20:06

Stanners said:
It will be another rambling sound demo

Thanks for reminding me of that. Oh the frustration...

Boomstick777 · 11 Mar 2014 at 21:26

Gregster said:
Good stuff and looks like great times for us computer gamers, regardless of Red or Green coloured being in our machines.

Agreed, lot's going on in the PC gaming space, competition is brilliant. Lot's of new hardware / software coming in next couple years.. PC isn't quite as dead as the gadget show would like us all to believe

setter · 11 Mar 2014 at 21:31

Boomstick777 said:
Agreed, lot's going on in the PC gaming space, competition is brilliant. Lot's of new hardware / software coming in next couple years.. PC isn't quite as dead as the apple appreciation show would like us all to believe

Fixed that for ya Boom.

Indeed, good times ahead.

humbug · 11 Mar 2014 at 22:55

A look at how new Direct3D advancements enhance efficiency and enable fully-threaded building of command buffers. Speakers will demonstrate how AMD is using its recent experience in efficient graphics API design and its partnership with Microsoft to provide developers with the infrastructure to render next-generation graphics workloads at full performance.

LtMatt said:
Direct3D and the Future of Graphics APIs
Thursday, March 20, 5:30-6:30 p.m., Room: 3020, West Hall[/b]

Speaker(s): Johan Andersson, DICE, Dan Baker, Oxide Games and Dave Oldcorn, AMD.

Source
http://developer.amd.com/amd-technology-at-gdc/?cmpid=social19868004

Indeed.

All Mantle developers helping MS develop DX12, or so it seems.

shankly1985 · 11 Mar 2014 at 23:02

humbug said:
Indeed. All Mantle developers helping MS develop DX12, or so it seems.

It would seem Mantle is far from dead. Good times ahead.

humbug · 11 Mar 2014 at 23:03

shankly1985 said:
It would seem Mantle is far from dead. Good times ahead.

Perhaps you me Matt and others on the Red team already have a DX12 preview

GoogalyMoogaly · 11 Mar 2014 at 23:10

Maybe AMD have come up with a decent reference cooler...

Or perhaps it'll be something more realistic, like AMD and Nvidia joining forces and donating all profits to charity...

shankly1985 · 13 Mar 2014 at 01:40

Amd and Microsoft partnership confirmed?

In this session AMDs Dave Oldcorn, Frostbite technical Director Johan Andersson and Oxides Dan Baker will look at how new Direct3D advancements enhance efficiency and enable fully-threaded building of command buffers. They will demonstrate how AMD is using its recent experience in efficient graphics API design and its partnership with Microsoft to provide developers with the infrastructure to render next-generation graphics workloads at full performance. This presentation also discusses the best ways to exploit AMD hardware under heavy load and will invite developers to influence driver and hardware development.

http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828412?cmpid=social19871784

andybird123 · 13 Mar 2014 at 01:57

As I said in, what, November? MS posted a blog post saying that they were going to be integrating "lessons" from Xbox in to the windows Dx, so yes, having been pushed, MS are just integrating mantle in to DX, which is fine by me, as it gives all hardware vendors equal access

Silent_Scone · 13 Mar 2014 at 07:35

And the penny drops

triss · 13 Mar 2014 at 07:39

andybird123 said:
As I said in, what, November? MS posted a blog post saying that they were going to be integrating "lessons" from Xbox in to the windows Dx, so yes, having been pushed, MS are just integrating mantle in to DX, which is fine by me, as it gives all hardware vendors equal access

Is MS integrating mantle in DX Or is Mantle simply a integration of what consoles already use into windows?
Since they have already been closer to the metal so to speak?

Silent_Scone · 13 Mar 2014 at 08:50

It'll be foundation talks for pushing Mantle feature sets within DX

MjFrosty said:
MjFrosty said:

Mantles progress isn't anything but a good thing, but that doesn't mean I have to agree or believe everything AMD tells me . I think they know they're on a good run just how things are right now, and for the foreseeable future. Hallock has said on a few occasions that they're perfectly ok with somebody else taking the helm (referring to alternative API) If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'll just have to live with it

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I'll accept donations or gift baskets, no grovelling apologies

gpuerrilla · 13 Mar 2014 at 09:30

I think apologies are in order for those that jumped on the mantle was "dead on arrival" bandwagon.

Most people were positive about it. Definitely good for PC gamers moving forward though!

drunkenmaster · 13 Mar 2014 at 09:37

MjFrosty said:
It'll be foundation talks for pushing Mantle feature sets within DX

I'll accept donations or gift baskets, no grovelling apologies

You mean one post out of a bunch, in which your driving argument is that AMD wouldn't release a Mantle SDK, and you've also been vocal about AMD not passing it off.

Presuming Mantle gets integrated into DX12, which you are but we've seen no proof of at all, would suggest AMD being happy to relinquish control and if a DX12 SDK was publicly released and it included Mantle, then you'd be proven wrong, not right.

Your quote also says specifically letting someone else lead the way with an alternative API, not the same one renamed.

Mantle being incorporated into DX12(something I still see absolutely no evidence of), doesn't spell the end of Mantle. When was the last time you say DX12 on Linux, or Android, or OSX? If Mantle became the defacto coded for API(under a new name) on windows, this would only strengthen Mantle and reduce the amount of work required to port games to other platforms, if, and only if, Mantle was available for other platforms.

Silent_Scone · 13 Mar 2014 at 09:38

No pleasing some people.

I said pushing feature sets, they're not pushing it off on anyone. It will however signify the start of gradual integration. We all know where that goes with anything Microsoft. It wasn't my driving argument, it's simply what you and SteamPunk decided to pick up on, because it was easy to do so as you'd read on the internet somewhere. Let's not start again shall we? You can call me out (again) later on if you really want to. But you won't, because there won't be a public Mantle SDK.