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DK2 and Nvidia
- Thread starter Gregster
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I have got used to it and no eye strain or sickness now and Digitalx is quite correct and I am starting to ignore the pixels now and seeing a cleaner image.
Caporegime
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CV1 looks to have quite a few improvements! I think I may be tempted to jump in when pre-orders begin, esp as I'm interested in Eve:Valk too 
Me neither but hopefully we get something solid soon (well not too soon or the DK2 will certainly be an expensive bit of kit for me)
Well having owned the DK2 for a few days, I thought I would do a write up of it and maybe do a video review another time.
Ding dong goes the doorbell and the delivery man hands me a package that is a lot smaller than the pics look but who cares about size? (except women and they do) Anyways, I eagerly head to my den and rip open the happy Birthday wrapping paper (made me chuckle) and open up a brown box with the word DK2 stamped in black. The instructions are very easy and no problems with the wiring. It connects to a camera which sits atop my monitor and the camera and goggles connect to a very small box, which have 2 leads, which are a HDMI and a USB styleee.
After plugging in and pressing the black button on the goggles, Windows 10 makes the connected hardware sound and up pops a small box telling me the DK2 is connected and working (I had previously installed the software and the SDK 0.8 runtime). Fire up the demo scene in the OR box and pop on the goggles. A very boring scene of a table, a monitor, a plant and a chair but everything is working as it should.
Time to have a look and the first thing I fire up is "Back to Dinosaur Island" and WOW!!! totally blown away by the immersion and this is a short but very well done demo that is great for showing others, as you pretty much just sit and look. Anyways, onto Elite Dangerous and the main reason I bought the DK2.....
Fired up Elite and no option for the OR
But wait! I remember reading up the day before about Elite and how the 0.5 SDK was needed and a couple of great guys from the VR community had made a little program to switch between the 0.7 and 0.5 SDK, so done what it said on the tin and within 5 seconds, I was now running the 0.5 SDK and I opned up the display control on W10 and set the monitor to extended and again fired up Elite. Set the OR option and secondary monitor and I was now seeing Elite Dangerous options screen through the goggles but upside down 
So back to CP and flip the extended display and blah blah blah.
Everything set correctly, I press start on Elite and I can see my Anaconda in 3D spinning around while the game is loading, a few seconds later I am in and in a completely empty house I say aloud "Oh my ****ing God" I can't believe what I am seeing. This game was meant for the Rift and my jaw was sitting on my keyboard. I have never felt immersion like it and I finally have that "Tron" moment of actually being in the game. I play for roughly 2 hours and take off the goggles and my eyes do hurt a little but nothing bad and I am still in shock for what I have just witnessed. Speechless is an understatement.
I fire up a few more demo's and a couple really do need a mention for the sheer quality and they are: Sightline the chair, Welcome to Oculus, Don't let go, Apollo Experience and Motorbike. These and many others are fantastic games/experiences and well worth a download. I play ED some more and the next day and the next day
I look through my Steam Library and see PCars and know this is a big OR game, so fire that up and again, immersion factor is incredible and with everything set to max, it runs very smooth on my system which really did surprise me. I decide to watch the replay and I stick my head out the window as I am flying along and all of a sudden, I feel sick, I stop the game and take off the glasses but yer, motion sickness has got me in this for some reason and not sure why. I take the dogs for a walk and 10 mins later I am fine and fire up PCars again and no problems this time but I didn't watch replays, so maybe a heads up there for others.
All in all, it has been a very easy experience with very few issues. The biggest problem the OR faces is pixels and you can clearly see edges when looking through the goggles and they can be a little off putting but stick with it and your eyes will start to block them out naturally and you won't notice them so much if at all. The CV1 will have a vastly improved resolution and this will help big time but as the tech savvy will know, a bigger res will need more grunt and as the DK2 doesn't work with SLI or CF, fingers crossed that the CV1 will have that option.
I would recommend anyone to at least try before writing off this tech and see what is what and if there is more support in games, I can see this being a long term tech. It does need a better res but I have no issues running the DK2 and the one game I bought it for looks incredible and if that makes my gaming experience even better, then happy days.
TL: DR - I love the VR experience and recommend anyone to give it a try.
Ding dong goes the doorbell and the delivery man hands me a package that is a lot smaller than the pics look but who cares about size? (except women and they do
) Anyways, I eagerly head to my den and rip open the happy Birthday wrapping paper (made me chuckle) and open up a brown box with the word DK2 stamped in black. The instructions are very easy and no problems with the wiring. It connects to a camera which sits atop my monitor and the camera and goggles connect to a very small box, which have 2 leads, which are a HDMI and a USB styleee.After plugging in and pressing the black button on the goggles, Windows 10 makes the connected hardware sound and up pops a small box telling me the DK2 is connected and working (I had previously installed the software and the SDK 0.8 runtime). Fire up the demo scene in the OR box and pop on the goggles. A very boring scene of a table, a monitor, a plant and a chair but everything is working as it should.
Time to have a look and the first thing I fire up is "Back to Dinosaur Island" and WOW!!! totally blown away by the immersion and this is a short but very well done demo that is great for showing others, as you pretty much just sit and look. Anyways, onto Elite Dangerous and the main reason I bought the DK2.....
Fired up Elite and no option for the OR
But wait! I remember reading up the day before about Elite and how the 0.5 SDK was needed and a couple of great guys from the VR community had made a little program to switch between the 0.7 and 0.5 SDK, so done what it said on the tin and within 5 seconds, I was now running the 0.5 SDK and I opned up the display control on W10 and set the monitor to extended and again fired up Elite. Set the OR option and secondary monitor and I was now seeing Elite Dangerous options screen through the goggles but upside down So back to CP and flip the extended display and blah blah blah.Everything set correctly, I press start on Elite and I can see my Anaconda in 3D spinning around while the game is loading, a few seconds later I am in and in a completely empty house I say aloud "Oh my ****ing God"
I can't believe what I am seeing. This game was meant for the Rift and my jaw was sitting on my keyboard. I have never felt immersion like it and I finally have that "Tron" moment of actually being in the game. I play for roughly 2 hours and take off the goggles and my eyes do hurt a little but nothing bad and I am still in shock for what I have just witnessed. Speechless is an understatement.I fire up a few more demo's and a couple really do need a mention for the sheer quality and they are: Sightline the chair, Welcome to Oculus, Don't let go, Apollo Experience and Motorbike. These and many others are fantastic games/experiences and well worth a download. I play ED some more and the next day and the next day
I look through my Steam Library and see PCars and know this is a big OR game, so fire that up and again, immersion factor is incredible and with everything set to max, it runs very smooth on my system which really did surprise me. I decide to watch the replay and I stick my head out the window as I am flying along and all of a sudden, I feel sick, I stop the game and take off the glasses but yer, motion sickness has got me in this for some reason and not sure why. I take the dogs for a walk and 10 mins later I am fine and fire up PCars again and no problems this time but I didn't watch replays, so maybe a heads up there for others.
All in all, it has been a very easy experience with very few issues. The biggest problem the OR faces is pixels and you can clearly see edges when looking through the goggles and they can be a little off putting but stick with it and your eyes will start to block them out naturally and you won't notice them so much if at all. The CV1 will have a vastly improved resolution and this will help big time but as the tech savvy will know, a bigger res will need more grunt and as the DK2 doesn't work with SLI or CF, fingers crossed that the CV1 will have that option.
I would recommend anyone to at least try before writing off this tech and see what is what and if there is more support in games, I can see this being a long term tech. It does need a better res but I have no issues running the DK2 and the one game I bought it for looks incredible and if that makes my gaming experience even better, then happy days.
TL: DR - I love the VR experience and recommend anyone to give it a try.
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Good review Greg, keep promoting that Oculus. Far too many people slate it without even giving it a go. Though some of the reasons to slate it are legitimate, writing it off completely is silly.
If there is little interest in VR the tech wont develop as fast or at all, as there will be no drive for investment. Saying you think VR should go away and return when we can have 4k per eye OLED displays is stupid, what company will be willing to invest in that after another VR flop?
Another one that annoys me is when people say it is a gimmick and that no one will use it because it will be harder to play their zombie-out-for-4-hours-fps-multiplayers like COD or BF4. VR is only a gimmick if you just slap it on the normal games you usually play not built for VR. If those games are all you are interested in then fair enough but VR opens up so many possibilities for games which cant be experienced the same way without a headset. It adds a new dynamic to horror games and free roam sandbox games. Some of the demos really taking advantage of VR are stunning but they are barely scratching the surface of what is possible. They would add an element of realism to better emotionally connect you to storyline centred gamed like the the tell-tale game series. Imagine playing FF7 as cloud in first person view watching your beloved friend being killed in front of you or seeing Ultima weapon coming out of the water toward you (yes not the same as the original but I would certainly love to experience it).
We need VR to breath some life into gaming. Tired of the same rehashed FPS crap we see every year that hit the shelves at £60 and sell out. I am sure there are many creative developers out there looking for the chance to really take advantage of something new like VR and create something unique to it.
If there is little interest in VR the tech wont develop as fast or at all, as there will be no drive for investment. Saying you think VR should go away and return when we can have 4k per eye OLED displays is stupid, what company will be willing to invest in that after another VR flop?
Another one that annoys me is when people say it is a gimmick and that no one will use it because it will be harder to play their zombie-out-for-4-hours-fps-multiplayers like COD or BF4. VR is only a gimmick if you just slap it on the normal games you usually play not built for VR. If those games are all you are interested in then fair enough but VR opens up so many possibilities for games which cant be experienced the same way without a headset. It adds a new dynamic to horror games and free roam sandbox games. Some of the demos really taking advantage of VR are stunning but they are barely scratching the surface of what is possible. They would add an element of realism to better emotionally connect you to storyline centred gamed like the the tell-tale game series. Imagine playing FF7 as cloud in first person view watching your beloved friend being killed in front of you or seeing Ultima weapon coming out of the water toward you (yes not the same as the original but I would certainly love to experience it).
We need VR to breath some life into gaming. Tired of the same rehashed FPS crap we see every year that hit the shelves at £60 and sell out. I am sure there are many creative developers out there looking for the chance to really take advantage of something new like VR and create something unique to it.
Some great points Avenged and reading about, it is annoying to read people stating that it is a gimmick but haven't actually tried it. For ED, for the first time I actually felt like I was flying a space ship and in battle, it is weird leaning forward and looking up and around to see where the enemy has gone. Everything just damned well works and in no time at all, I had lost sight of the bad pixels and only seeing a glorious game.
A few showcases at venues could well change people's minds and a few positive reviews and dedicated games will seriously help push this tech forward. The naysayers who haven't even tried it can do one and my Wife wears glasses and had a play and had no problems at all and she isn't a gamer full stop but kept asking me to put something else on and can she have another go.
A few showcases at venues could well change people's minds and a few positive reviews and dedicated games will seriously help push this tech forward. The naysayers who haven't even tried it can do one and my Wife wears glasses and had a play and had no problems at all and she isn't a gamer full stop but kept asking me to put something else on and can she have another go.
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Yea VR headset certainly ain't gonna be great for ALL kinds of games...but for the right kind of games, they can be very amazing.
Perhaps even for mmos or rpgs (1st person) in the not so distance future would let you feel like you are actually within a fantasy world, slaying huge monsters and mobs like you are really there!
Perhaps even for mmos or rpgs (1st person) in the not so distance future would let you feel like you are actually within a fantasy world, slaying huge monsters and mobs like you are really there!
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I can even se games like BF working well on the Rift. 2 hand controllers are all you need and off you go into a 64 man deathmatch server
Two of these beauties
Elite Dangerous Horizons with planetary landings is just beautiful. Really smooth as well but still had to use the 0.5 runtime, even though the 0.8 works (it gave a black border down the left and wasn't centered close to correct).
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I was going to ask for a video but it doesn't really work does it
Glad you are enjoying it, i'll be waiting for the public main release before I go anywhere near it. Sadly, it made me feel really ill when using it at i55
Glad you are enjoying it, i'll be waiting for the public main release before I go anywhere near it. Sadly, it made me feel really ill when using it at i55
I did record a video last night of ED but it doesn't really work outside of the Rift
You lose all sense of how big the ship is and the only way I could record was using the SDK 0.8 but the 0.8 doesn't center properly and gives a black bar edge but you get an idea at least.
You lose all sense of how big the ship is and the only way I could record was using the SDK 0.8 but the 0.8 doesn't center properly and gives a black bar edge but you get an idea at least.
