DLSR for £500 (Must have good recording)

^^^
5100 has a microphone socket also, although I guess if the Op doesn't want to shoot 1080p then the 600D's 60fps has an advantage there I guess but it does have a sensor overheating issue that could cause the camera to stop recording halfway through a magic trick.

 
5UB said:
When it comes to memory cards, I have heard that certain speeds, types can be a problem with cameras. This is not really my field, for the 600D which one would you recommend on this list?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1913&subid=138&sortby=priceDesc

I want the biggest capacity, 32GB would be nice.
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How fast do each of those 32gb cards actually write? My Sandisk 8gb extreme pro writes at 45mb/sec yet only a few of the cards on the shop state the write speeds :(
 
James J said:
How fast do each of those 32gb cards actually write? My Sandisk 8gb extreme pro writes at 45mb/sec yet only a few of the cards on the shop state the write speeds :(
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Doesn't actually say on our website, it mentions the class so it may say on the manufacturers website. I shall take a look.
 
digital revs is a great website for price however one thing to consider is that it is based in Hong Kong.

This means that you can get stunned for tax when it enters the country, thats after the £25 delivery cost.

You could take the risk and hope it gets through, however i would advise you to ring up and ask what the tax may be should you be asked to pay it by the courrier.
 
5UB said:
Is that something I should worry about? Or should I just be careful?
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Just keep it in mind really, it only tends to happen when shooting for extended periods with no downtime. The only time it has ever overheated with me is when I was shooting for 45 minutes straight, in a hot room.
 
Ice Globe said:
The D5100 can do movies up to 4GB and 20 mins long per clip, the total duration dependent on the memory card size.
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most DSLR's dont record more than 29 mins and 59 secs, if its 30 mins or up its classed as a video camera is they have higher tax prices (iirc)

PermaBanned said:
Have you experienced any of this?


I ask because the last time this came up on another forum somebody seemed quite worried about it, although i haven't heard it as a complaint at all. Nor can i see the effect in any Pentax K-r footage i've found. Just musing about the pros and cons of CMOS and CCD for video...

Oh, and 5UB - since you're buying a complete kit it would be useful to know what you're actually videoing? If you 'require' sound then it might be worth going used to get the best value for money with regards to an external mic as well as a few lenses and a tripod.
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Almost all DSLR's suffer with rolling shutter, even 5D's. 7D's etc. Its normal.

the 550d / 600d will give the best DSLR video quality for the price, better than the d5100. But how much better is your call. To me its enough to warrant going for the 550d/600d (they are almost identical), but i do video work and obsess about the last little bit of sharpness and resolution.

The d5100 has autofocus in video, which isnt vital for pro video, because thats normally manual focus, but for all other purposes its fun and useful, quite fast too.

If video quality and sharpness is your priority, the Lumix GH1 is the best bet. Get it hacked and it has much better sharpness and resolution than even a 7D.
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but the GH1 isnt a DSLR, its a micro four thirds camera, much like my GF1.
You have fewer lenses and accessories as its a newer system, but its more compact and takes excellent video.
 
Broken Hope said:
I know there's not a lot of Sony users on this forum, but primarily for video I'd be looking at the A33 or A55, they do full auto focus in video and it's pretty fast at it too.
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For the video the sony's arent a great choice. Most video DSLR's have in lens stabilization, the sonys have inbuilt stabilization.

Because of this when shooting video the camera can overheat (iirc after about 10-15minutes), but the bad part is that if it overheats from shooting video, it shuts itself down for a period of time. about 8 mins IIRC. This might be a problem it might not, depends on your shooting style.

You can turn off the stabilization and it wont overheat, but stabilized handheld video is a nice option.
 
ashatron said:
For the video the sony's arent a great choice. Most video DSLR's have in lens stabilization, the sonys have inbuilt stabilization.

Because of this when shooting video the camera can overheat (iirc after about 10-15minutes), but the bad part is that if it overheats from shooting video, it shuts itself down for a period of time. about 8 mins IIRC. This might be a problem it might not, depends on your shooting style.

You can turn off the stabilization and it wont overheat, but stabilized handheld video is a nice option.
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I have a Sony a55 and video is stunning. The quality is very good and 1080p video is superb and the af capabilities have made my Video Camera redundant.

With steady shot on in the camera it can overheat after 10 mins or so, with it off it runs for the tax avoiding 29 minutes. Stabilised lenses work on this camera just as they do on other cameras and sigma produces lenses which work very well.

I tried the Canon 550/600 Nikon 5100 and the Sony gave me the most capable camera from both the photograph and video prospective.
 
J1nxy said:
I have a Sony a55 and video is stunning. The quality is very good and 1080p video is superb and the af capabilities have made my Video Camera redundant.

With steady shot on in the camera it can overheat after 10 mins or so, with it off it runs for the tax avoiding 29 minutes. Stabilised lenses work on this camera just as they do on other cameras and sigma produces lenses which work very well.

I tried the Canon 550/600 Nikon 5100 and the Sony gave me the most capable camera from both the photograph and video prospective.
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I'm not criticizing the camera at all, in fact i intend to buy one of the new versions that are currently rumored (a77 etc), but I feel this overheating is a very important factor. But thanks for sharing the other stabilized lenses that could be used, that slipped my mind.

I'm currently looking at the A33 or A55 (but i might wait for the new ones), they seem great, very light, quite compact, IQ as good as the class leaders (600d etc), and a good lens selection. Not to mention the benefits of the Electronic view finder systems like 10fps a second shooting. I think the ergonomics are great.

My only concern is that some say the Semi translucent mirror reduces the amount of light that reaches the sensor by 30%, but ill put two cams (one of which being the a33/a55) side by side and see what shutter they choose.
 
PermaBanned said:
As i understand it it's only cameras with CMOS sensors that suffer from it - CCDs are immune, so to speak.
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Youre spot on, but unfortunately afaik the best DSLR for video work are all cmos.
Global shutter would stop this and hopefully we will see sober cameras using global shutter in the next couple of years.
 
Even the dedicated and pricey 35mm Digital Video Cameras that are used more and more on major productions have CMOS sensors, such as Arriflex and RED.

Obviously there are varying factors and you get what you pay for.
But often it's only really going to show up with fast pans, or if you start waving the camera back and forth like a madman.
 
5UB said:
I just need to find out the best place to get the tripod, accessories, etc.
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Redsnapper tripods are about the best bang for buck out there.

http://www.redsnapperuk.com/

Camera price buster is a good place to look for bodies and lenses.

http://www.camerapricebuster.com/

EDIT: You will however struggle to beat Digital Rev on price since they're Hong Kong based.

EDITEDIT: What other accessories are you after.
 
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