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Do AMD provide any benefit to the retail GPU segment.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome, pressuring solely AMD isn't working.

Nvidia push prices up, AMD slot themselves just behind them, over and over again, and they will again.

I'm not being daft with people here, i'm trying to get people to think about this differently. :)

So, question, why should AMD care about thier market share when they have a higher market share than Nvidia?
 
It's an awkward situation. Everyone says how bad Nvidia's prices would be if there wasn't competition from AMD, but it doesn't seem like that's making a difference to Nvidia's pricing anyway as it's obvious AMD will just follow suit rather than shake things up.

And what option do we have, not buy graphics cards?
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
It's an awkward situation. Everyone says how bad Nvidia's prices would be if there wasn't competition from AMD, but it doesn't seem like that's making a difference to Nvidia's pricing anyway as it's obvious AMD will just follow suit rather than shake things up.

And what option do we have, not buy graphics cards?
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Didn't you hear though, amds chiplet design is going to pass on the savings to their loyal customers, oh wait....
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
It's an awkward situation. Everyone says how bad Nvidia's prices would be if there wasn't competition from AMD, but it doesn't seem like that's making a difference to Nvidia's pricing anyway as it's obvious AMD will just follow suit rather than shake things up.

And what option do we have, not buy graphics cards?
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"The only way to win is not to play". If demand stays low for long enough prices will come down, at least for AMD.
 
Do things like better RT and slightly better upscaling tech have an added monetary value? If so how much?

When thinking about that we are not calculating how much more they should be worth over AMD, because AMD don't care, they will just take that number you have decided on and take 10% off.
So you're calculating how much more do you think those features are worth vs not having them, the higher that amount the more you will pay for everything, including AMD.

If you don't think DLSS 3 is worth a 74% premium for this generation GPU over the previous generation GPU then you need to be screaming at those tech journalists who claim to be your voice and then do an atrocious job of it, you need to be letting them know you're not happy about them using 'value metric bar graph marketing to tell you its all good and then take it out on the competitor for only being 5% "better value"
Again AMD don't care, what's more Nvidia love that ####. Plays right in to their hands, and out of your pockets,

That 74%, has quite a different ring to it doesn't it when you aren't just looking at value bar chart distraction tactics.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
If Nvidia don't care what AMD do why are they gonna care what some tech journalists say?

And it still doesn't answer the question of what we do instead though if we can't buy graphics cards?
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We need a change in tactics. Its all i have, if it as you say doesn't work then i guess we lose, i hope someone has a better idea.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
And it still doesn't answer the question of what we do instead though if we can't buy graphics cards?
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Nothing, just upgrade every 4 or 6 years instead of every 2. If your GPU is broke then obviously you need to buy something. If if it's not broke I imagine it still plays games at reasonable quality settings. It's the fomo of RT and upscaling,fg that seems to drive people into think they NEED an upgrade
 
K1LaW8tt5 said:
Nothing, just upgrade every 4 or 6 years instead of every 2. If your GPU is broke then obviously you need to buy something. If if it's not broke I imagine it still plays games at reasonable quality settings. It's the fomo of RT and upscaling,fg that seems to drive people into think they NEED an upgrade
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But that means that there will always be people buying cards as there'll always be people with GPUs that are 4-6 years old.

None of this will make a difference unless you can convince everyone to do it anyway, just because a handful of people on this forum does something won't achieve anything.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
But that means that there will always be people buying cards as there'll always be people with GPUs that are 4-6 years old.

None of this will make a difference unless you can convince everyone to do it anyway, just because a handful of people on this forum does something won't achieve anything.
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Become an influencer, convince others not to buy any new GPU.

If things stay as they are I'm sure it'll be more than a handful of people not bothered with upgrading.
 
Better idea, become a tech review channel and get your GPUs for free!

But from Nvidia's point of view, what's encouraging them to change. I mean even on this forum we have people that favour AMD buying Nvidia graphics cards. Some such individuals buying multiple 4090s.
If they can sell their most expensive GPU to people that generally favour AMD, why would they be thinking there's a problem?
I guess the hope is that as an enthusiast forum we're outliers and generally people are refusing to buy the GPUs. In which case being the minority we don't need to do anything and can keep buying GPUs as we please as it won't have much of an impact overall... :)
 
Calin Banc said:
Neah, they still work fine on older models with some settings tuned here and there. Just don't buy and a lesson will be teached.
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Also can just play older games and AA/Indie ones. If Nvidia/AMD want to charge stupid amounts so you can get a few nicer reflections and some nice lighting they can keep their cards. Its quite clear anything under £500 is increasingly junk.
 
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