Do AMD provide any benefit to the retail GPU segment.

O.Giroud · 12 May 2023 at 00:15

Well definitly someone who don't care about innovation, as a good reason (if not the best) to prefer AMD over NVidia
And note that there is some kind of reverse logic with nvidia prices : the more their cards are expensive and the more people buy and are happy to encourage high prices by buying

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 10:16

Seems first European price leaked:

AMD Radeon RX 7600 expected to cost €349 in France - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 7600 now has a rumored price According to Cowcotland the price for the upcoming mid-range RX 7600 GPU is €349. The French site, citing their sources, claims that the price for custom Radeon RX 7600 has been settled at €349. A quick conversion from EUR to USD tells us that the card...

videocardz.com

That would mean £300 with 20% VAT here. £50 too expensive at least.

Grim5 · 12 May 2023 at 10:18

Ridiculous price

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 11:04

AMD again clutching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Edit!!

Just seen an RX6700XT for £325 elsewhere too.

RavenXXX2 · 12 May 2023 at 11:06

Will be AMDiscounted within a month.

KompuKare · 12 May 2023 at 11:13

RavenXXX2 said:
Will be AMDiscounted within a month.

Why change a loosing approach?

Release far too expensive (bonus if there are any last minutes drivers updates which just miss the launch-day reviews)
Get poor reviews.
Get poor sales
A few months later, reduce the price by 20% or so and all driver issues fixed by then.

If the card had been reviewed as #4 it would have to great reviews, but that's far to sensible for AMD's marketting.

AMD's GPU aims for 2023 - get down to 7.5% marketshare!
AMD's GPU aims for 2025 - get down to 5.0% marketshare!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 11:48

KompuKare said:
Why change a loosing approach?

Release far too expensive (bonus if there are any last minutes drivers updates which just miss the launch-day reviews)

Get poor reviews.

Get poor sales

A few months later, reduce the price by 20% or so and all driver issues fixed by then.

If the card had been reviewed as #4 it would have to great reviews, but that's far to sensible for AMD's marketting.

AMD's GPU aims for 2023 - get down to 7.5% marketshare!
AMD's GPU aims for 2025 - get down to 5.0% marketshare!

Also don't do QC/QA on the reference cooler or something else which means even people who want to buy are hesitant.

Jono8 · 12 May 2023 at 12:42

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Seems first European price leaked:

AMD Radeon RX 7600 expected to cost €349 in France - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 7600 now has a rumored price According to Cowcotland the price for the upcoming mid-range RX 7600 GPU is €349. The French site, citing their sources, claims that the price for custom Radeon RX 7600 has been settled at €349. A quick conversion from EUR to USD tells us that the card...

videocardz.com

That would mean £300 with 20% VAT here. £50 too expensive at least.

That seems a lot. I was expecting the 7600XT to be that price, not the 7600

Purgatory · 12 May 2023 at 12:52

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Seems first European price leaked:

AMD Radeon RX 7600 expected to cost €349 in France - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 7600 now has a rumored price According to Cowcotland the price for the upcoming mid-range RX 7600 GPU is €349. The French site, citing their sources, claims that the price for custom Radeon RX 7600 has been settled at €349. A quick conversion from EUR to USD tells us that the card...

videocardz.com

That would mean £300 with 20% VAT here. £50 too expensive at least.

Colorfire launches mint GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X graphics card - VideoCardz.com

Colorful/Colorfire mint RTX 3060 Ti The upcoming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti graphics update is only a few weeks away, but board partners are still releasing new 3060 Ti GPUs. GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X Cool Mint, Source: Colorful A quick reminder that Colorful brought back its Colorfire brand (which...

videocardz.com

Well something to look forward too above... ohh wait.... we have been there done that but more new versions... :cry:

humbug · 12 May 2023 at 13:27

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Seems first European price leaked:

AMD Radeon RX 7600 expected to cost €349 in France - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 7600 now has a rumored price According to Cowcotland the price for the upcoming mid-range RX 7600 GPU is €349. The French site, citing their sources, claims that the price for custom Radeon RX 7600 has been settled at €349. A quick conversion from EUR to USD tells us that the card...

videocardz.com

That would mean £300 with 20% VAT here. £50 too expensive at least.

I agree but at the same time that's the first GPU of this generation that's cheaper than the card its replacing, the RX 6600 at $329 MSRP.

Now it depends on what the 4060 will be priced at and i doubt its less than $400.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 13:33

humbug said:
I agree but at the same time that's the first GPU of this generation that's cheaper than the card its replacing, the RX 6600 at $329 MSRP.

Now it depends on what the 4060 will be priced at and i doubt its less than $400.

You can get an RX6700XT for £325.

humbug · 12 May 2023 at 13:37

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
You can get an RX6700XT for £325.

New vs EOL pricing.

I'm not in disagreement with you

but if we expect replacement generation GPU's to be cheaper than EOL pricing it wouldn't take many years for those GPU's to be $1, its accumulative, think about it. Or what would really happen is they will simply stop discounting EOL GPU's, like Nvidia have. Lets not go there and just be sensible

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Okay..... thanks for listening, we will hold you to it.

Scott Herkelman Addresses RX 7900 XTX Cooler & Performance

Gordon chats with Scott Herkelman, AMD's Senior Vice President & General Manager Graphics, at CES 2023 about the recent Radeon RX 7900 XTX cooler issues as w...

youtu.be

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 13:44

humbug said:
New vs EOL pricing.

I'm not in disagreement with you but if we expect replacement generation GPU's to be cheaper than EOL pricing it wouldn't take many years for those GPU's to be $1, its accumulative, think about it. Or what would really happen is they will simply stop discounting EOL GPU's, like Nvidia have. Lets not go there and just be sensible
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Okay..... thanks for listening, we will hold you to it.

Scott Herkelman Addresses RX 7900 XTX Cooler & Performance

Gordon chats with Scott Herkelman, AMD's Senior Vice President & General Manager Graphics, at CES 2023 about the recent Radeon RX 7900 XTX cooler issues as w...

youtu.be

Well it's basically a cheaper to make RX6650XT. The RX6600/RX6600XT had pandemic pricing factored in. At £300+ it's trash with only 8GB VRAM as it clear that larger GDDR6 modules exist. Purely a move out of the Nvidia playbook.

humbug · 12 May 2023 at 13:45

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Well it's basically a cheaper to make RX6650XT. The RX6600/RX6600XT had pandemic pricing factored in. At £300+ it's trash with only 8GB VRAM as it clear that larger GDDR6 modules exist. Purely a move out of the Nvidia playbook.

Its not for me, that's for sure....

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 13:47

humbug said:
Its not for me, that's for sure....

It's idiotic.The RTX4060 will be priced the same and even if they are the same in rasterised, it will be beaten in every other way.

Edit!!

Better to not bother launching a £300+ RX7600 8GB. It will end up boosting RTX4060 8GB sales.

humbug · 12 May 2023 at 13:49

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It's idiotic.The RTX4060 will be priced the same and even if they are the same in rasterised, it will be beaten in every other way.

With the 4070 at $600, most of them $700, no it wont...

IMO they will start at $400. Or more, the 3060 was $380 MSRP.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 13:50

humbug said:
With the 4070 at $600, most of them $700, no it wont...

IMO they will start at $400. the 3060 was $380 MSRP.

Knowing AMD street pricing in the UK it will be almost the same, as the AMD shop gave up on this country.

As @KompuKare implied Another Marketing Disaster.

Man-In-A-Teapot · 12 May 2023 at 14:19

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Knowing AMD street pricing in the UK it will be almost the same, as the AMD shop gave up on this country.

As @KompuKare implied Another Marketing Disaster.

First they went fab-less, then they went shop-less?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2023 at 14:34

Man-In-A-Teapot said:
First they went fab-less, then they went shop-less?

Went brain-less too with £300+ RX7600 8GB pricing! :cry:

Man-In-A-Teapot · 12 May 2023 at 15:01

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Went brain-less too with £300+ RX7600 8GB pricing!

Well, to be fair, £300+ hasn't been confirmed yet. That link about the price in France is what somewhere is offering it for, which may be above RRP.