Do Space Aliens really exist?

Glaucus said:
a mental ex astronaut for a start and is it actually him?. Which doesn't actually mean anything. appeal to authority fallacy.
and nothing its only one direction, there's no replies. And the email is registered to these crazy people.

So no different to any spam emails you or anyone else gets. http://www.terrimansfield.com/suzanne/


so yeah the usual CT cant use critical thinking and are stupid.
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Fair enough - I did wonder if they were just spam emails as you don't really tend to see any replies back to them.

There was one which was trending yesterday, reportedly sent from a Blink 182 singer to Podesta. I'll see if I can find that and link it just FYI.

The difference with these seems to be that the Blink 182 singer seems to be in contact with Podesta. It isn't one-way traffic.

Anyway, I am a skeptic I'll just point that out but I thought it was interesting.

https://www.wikileaks.com/podesta-e...o=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult

^^ Showing this person was in contact with people, it wasn't a 'one off' email.

https://www.wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/3099

^^ The weird email in question.

e2a - Another strange email from the same person.

https://www.wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/4804
 
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have you even read the emails, or looked at the email address?
its talking about a movie trailer and then trying to set up a meeting, which there isn't any replies to.

so yes more CT spinning and nothing other than a CT trying t get a meeting.

the email address in question
To The Stars, inc. is an independent production company built on transmedia story-telling experiences that reach across music, entertainment, licensing and publishing.*
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Glaucus said:
have you eve read the emails, or looked at the email address?
its talking about a movie trailer.
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Yes, I have looked at the website 'to the stars' and it seems like this guy is a pretty avid 'believer'. It could well be a movie perhaps about UFO's which he's referencing, its a pity the trailer has been removed from Vimeo so we can't see it I guess.

I'm not a theorist, but I thought the emails were worth referencing in this thread.
 
not really, as it doesn't show anything, Podesta has been making a name for him self for over a decade and never delivers anything. more like money spinning. A nice easy retirement fund.
he's the one who got the hype up about Obama releasing ufo files which never happened.
 
Brian Cox claims: Aliens are dead and the same fate awaits us

If we take into account the age and size of the universe, there should be a civilization more advanced than ours, so why haven't we discovered it?

Are we alone in the universe? Will we ever discover an intelligent species? These two questions plague many scientists focused on the search for extraterrestrial life forms.

Popular physicist Brian Cox, who has received many awards for his efforts to publicize science, believes he knows the answers to these questions. And they are somewhat depressing. Cox says we shouldn't count on finding intelligent life forms cause they are all - dead. Cox suggests that our search will not be successful because every intelligent life form eventually destroys itself after it fully develops. In addition to intelligent aliens probably being dead, he thinks we would face the same fate. Among the billions of planets in our galaxy we still haven't found one that has intelligent life. Cox built his thesis on the Fermi paradox, which asks where is everybody in the universe? Essential points of the argument, made by physicists Enrico Fermi are that there are billions of stars in the galaxy that are similar to the Sun, many of which are billions of years older than Earth. With high probability, some of these stars will have Earth-like planets, and if the Earth is typical, some might develop intelligent life. Some of these civilizations might develop interstellar travel, a step that Earth is investigating now. Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy could be completely traversed in about a million years. Many have tried to explain the Fermi paradox primarily suggesting either that intelligent extraterrestrial life is extremely rare, or proposing reasons that such civilizations have not contacted or visited Earth. If we take into account the age and size of the universe, there should be a civilization more advanced than ours, so why haven't we discovered it?

One of the possible solutions is that these civilizations destroy themselves once they reach a certain stage of development and size. That could happen either trough war with advanced weapons or natural disaster. Cox further explained his theory to the Sunday Times.

One solution to the Fermi paradox is that it is not possible to run a world that has the power to destroy itself and that needs global collaborative solutions to prevent that. It may be that the growth of science and engineering inevitably outstrips the development of political expertise, leading to disaster. We could be approaching that position.

However, Cox elaborated his opinion in the mean time and said on his Facebook that he does believe there are other civilizations in the universe, though extremely rare. While small group of scientists have such a fatalistic attitude about the universe, others disagree. They believe that the Earth was the first planet in the entire universe to host complex life. Facts are that the Universe has been around for about 13.8 billion years and modern humans for just about 200,000 years, or 0.00145% of all time, which is the reason why many scientists believe we are that advanced civilization in the universe and the others could take billions of years to develop.
 
I liked his tweet, on all the articles

I note the Daily Express have slightly misunderstood my nuanced position on possible resolutions to the Fermi Paradox. Whatever next?
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Spent day being misquoted. Here is my view: There are other civilisations in the universe, although they may be rare. End of. Not news.
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There are even more galaxies in the universe than we thought

We’ve always known the universe was a big place, but our estimates keep getting revised upwards, adding more and more zeroes as we go along. The latest jump, based on 3D modeling of images collected over 20 years through the Hubble Space Telescope, reckons there are ten to 20 times more galaxies than previously thought. That’s somewhere between one and two trillion.

If your mind wasn’t already blown trying to keep these figures in your head, this big increase means the number of stars in the universe also gets a bump up. And given there are 100-400 billion stars in our galaxy, the figure elsewhere gets a bump to around 700 sextillion (or 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars). Some estimates reckoned there were already around 100 stars for every grain of sand on Earth and, well, now there’s a fair few more.

The study comes out of the University of Nottingham. Professor Christopher Conselice led a group of researchers who converted two decades' worth of deep space images from Hubble into 3D to measure the number of galaxies at different points in our universe’s history. In tandem with a new mathematical model that allowed the scientists to infer the number of galaxies our current generation of telescopes can’t currently observe, they realised that in order for the numbers to add up, we must only be able to see around 10% of the galaxies in the universe.

“It boggles the mind that over 90% of the galaxies in the universe have yet to be studied,” said Conselice. “Who knows what interesting properties we will find when we observe these galaxies with the next generation of telescopes?”

It also appears that while our estimates of galaxy numbers keep going up, the real number has actually shrunk. Indeed, the research reveals that there were once around ten times as many galaxies in a given volume of space as we have today. This, the scientists believe, is because many of the small and faint galaxies ended up merging together quite early on – relatively speaking, we’re still talking a few billion years old – in the universe’s life.

All of this, of course, just makes the Fermi Paradox all the more puzzling. If we have two trillion galaxies in the universe, all hosting millions to billions of stars inside, then where are all the aliens?
 
Life out there? Yep!
Sophisticated/developed/advanced alien life out there (i.e. non-bacrobial)? Probably.
Superior alien life out there? Sure, why not?
Superior alien life that has visited us? Not sure about that one.

Any alien civilization that has the technology to travel thousands of light years to visit us are probably so sophisticated/advanced that they would look upon us much like how we look upon bacteria in a petri dish.
 
Why haven't advanced intelligent aliens contacted us? When was the last time you stopped to talk to a worm?

Why haven't we detected alien probes, ships, etc? Because we're probably not advanced enough to detect them yet. We still have trouble seeing asteroids that may pass uncomfortably close to our planet, we also had to send a probe to the other side of the solar system just to get a good look at Pluto. So why are people assuming we'd be able to see something much smaller that may be using a form of energy we can't detect?
 
Re the Brian Cox post above - Brian cox makes some interesting points -"Cox suggests that our search will not be successful because every intelligent life form eventually destroys itself after it fully develops" that kinda makes sense and gives a plausible answer for no life anywhere else.

Which begs the question which is more amazing between these two facts

a) the fact we are the only life in trillions of galaxies

or

b)the trillions of galaxies have no life
 
tracertong said:
Re the Brian Cox post above - Brian cox makes some interesting points -"Cox suggests that our search will not be successful because every intelligent life form eventually destroys itself after it fully develops" that kinda makes sense and gives a plausible answer for no life anywhere else.

Which begs the question which is more amazing between these two facts

a) the fact we are the only life in trillions of galaxies

or

b)the trillions of galaxies have no life
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Neither are facts both are just assumptions and will remain to be for probably most if not all our existence.
 
Brian cox is the BBC`s science mouth piece and he is a total retard. :mad:
.......^sucks

I hate that guy with a passion, Mr Teeth thinks he knows it all!
He knows as much as me and you, he just looks good on telly. :rolleyes:

Seen an article today saying the is now or could be an estimated 1 trillion galaxies.

1 trillion galaxies with billions of stars accommodating billions of planets and this mental case from the BBC thinks they all killed themselves. You could not make it up! :D

As for the time thing.......

Time is like Schonders cat, you only observe time when you stop to take a measurement of an object in time, ie atomic decay, car travelling A to B etc.

Time only exists when you stop to look to measure it. ;)

I reckon the are millions of aliens just in our galaxy, as for the universe probably trillions of forms of life.
 
itchy said:
Brian cox is the BBC`s science mouth piece and he is a total retard. :mad:
.......^sucks

I hate that guy with a passion, Mr Teeth thinks he knows it all!
He knows as much as me and you, he just looks good on telly. :rolleyes:
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It is his presentation as much as anything - but I lost a lot of respect for him when he argued about climate change and used an illustration of global temperatures that started in the early 1800s as a basis for the pace of acceleration - which if you know much about climate is very flawed - even if he was correct in the overall theme his actual facts were about as bad as the crazy Australian guy he was arguing with.

I don't hate him though I think in general he does a good job of engaging people with science, etc.
 
Rroff said:
It is his presentation as much as anything - but I lost a lot of respect for him when he argued about climate change and used an illustration of global temperatures that started in the early 1800s as a basis for the pace of acceleration - which if you know much about climate is very flawed - even if he was correct in the overall theme his actual facts were about as bad as the crazy Australian guy he was arguing with.

I don't hate him though I think in general he does a good job of engaging people with science, etc.
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No he just a left wing liberal BBC mouth piece, who pushes whatever topic is on the chalk board for the BBC to spout.

He has zero credibility with me. :mad:

If he is saying aliens have wiped themselves out due to advanced technology hence we don't meet any.

If you actually think about it, that has to be the most retarded statement ever. :confused:
 
itchy said:
Brian cox is the BBC`s science mouth piece and he is a total retard. :mad:
.......^sucks

I reckon the are millions of aliens just in our galaxy, as for the universe probably trillions of forms of life.
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Which is basically what he said

Brian Cox said:
Spent day being misquoted. Here is my view: There are other civilisations in the universe, although they may be rare. End of. Not news.
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SexyGreyFox said:
Which is basically what he said
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So he basically back tracked on his statement.

He is full of bull and I really do not like the guy at all.

Give me Patrick Moore any day, I used to love that guy spent many of my Sundays watching BBC2`s Sky at Night.

But Mr Cox and his attitude and overconfidence he comes across with, as in I know it all you all just thick. :mad:

Am out I hate the *****!
 
Huh? Bit confused, i follow Brian Cox and watch/read a lot of his stuff, i'm not sure he comes across as a messiah tbh, seems fine.
 
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