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Do we as a forum need a bit more consistency in our recommendations
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A few months ago people would have said the GTX670 is the best performance vs value card, now that AMD have brought better drivers, free AAA games which are optomised for their cards and reduced the price of their GPU's that honour goes to the HD7950 (and that is coming from someone who has SLI 670's).
If tomorrow NVIDIA do something similar for single monitor 1080p gaming then people will start recommending them.
The fact that people create threads asking which card is best for their "needs" should tell you that they are open minded. "If" they specifically ask for NVIDIA and aren't willing to budge then why should we care? It's not our money!!!
edit - I'm a huge fan of Metro Last Light which uses PhysX and for that reason I wanted an NVIDIA card as crazy as it sounds.
If tomorrow NVIDIA do something similar for single monitor 1080p gaming then people will start recommending them.
The fact that people create threads asking which card is best for their "needs" should tell you that they are open minded. "If" they specifically ask for NVIDIA and aren't willing to budge then why should we care? It's not our money!!!
edit - I'm a huge fan of Metro Last Light which uses PhysX and for that reason I wanted an NVIDIA card as crazy as it sounds.
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I'm a huge fan of PhysX despite having to hack it due to having AMD's as my main gpu's-as the great big sausage roll can confirm.
I didn't go out my way to purchase an Nvidia gpu for the privilege, just used an old 9800gt that had seen better days.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
I didn't go out my way to purchase an Nvidia gpu for the privilege, just used an old 9800gt that had seen better days.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
I'm a huge fan of PhysX despite having to hack it due to having AMD's as my main gpu's-as the great big sausage roll can confirm.
I didn't go out my way to purchase an Nvidia gpu for the privilege, just used an old 9800gt that had seen better days.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
I've been tempted to do the same myself for a bit of fun (8800/9800GTs are dirt cheap), generally when people are "hit" with negativity, it's usually with regards to them asking about buying a GPU specifically for it (a somewhat expensive one too) as well as the ignorance on what games actually use a GPU for PhysX too.
The saddest thing of all is that nVidia are generally just squandering PhysX and using it just to hype up their products.
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We'll never agree on standard advice - so...
I'm a huge fan of PhysX despite having to hack it due to having AMD's as my main gpu's-as the great big sausage roll can confirm.
I didn't go out my way to purchase an Nvidia gpu for the privilege, just used an old 9800gt that had seen better days.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
Glad you mentioned this,I've put my 7970 Matrix in another rig and have
a 560ti going spare.
Could you trust me the gen on how to use it for Physx please.
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I'm a huge fan of PhysX despite having to hack it due to having AMD's as my main gpu's-as the great big sausage roll can confirm.
I didn't go out my way to purchase an Nvidia gpu for the privilege, just used an old 9800gt that had seen better days.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
Didn't Linus tech tips do some test that it can cause bottleneck if you don't use a decent PhysX card?
It depends on the game, older games, cheaper lesser graphics cards are fine, newer games, not as much.
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How about a structured template for people to use?
E.g:
Budget -
Resolution of screen -
3 regularly played games -
Specialist software -
Would certainly help to get a better idea of what to recommend someone if you know what it is going to be used for.
Perhaps they are going to play games that make better use of AMD cards than Nvidia cards or vice versa. Maybe one card works better in Photoshop while the other is better in CAD software?
Sometimes budgets span 2 tiers of cards, and sometimes multiple generations of cards too - this is where I've seen most disagreements. In the £150 to £200 bracket you have the choice of the 660, 560ti, 560ti 448, 7850 and 7870. Then of course you get the people who say 'if you spend £30 more you can get XX% more performance from a 660ti or 7950'.
All too often people make assumptions and there's nothing to base those assumptions off.
E.g:
Budget -
Resolution of screen -
3 regularly played games -
Specialist software -
Would certainly help to get a better idea of what to recommend someone if you know what it is going to be used for.
Perhaps they are going to play games that make better use of AMD cards than Nvidia cards or vice versa. Maybe one card works better in Photoshop while the other is better in CAD software?
Sometimes budgets span 2 tiers of cards, and sometimes multiple generations of cards too - this is where I've seen most disagreements. In the £150 to £200 bracket you have the choice of the 660, 560ti, 560ti 448, 7850 and 7870. Then of course you get the people who say 'if you spend £30 more you can get XX% more performance from a 660ti or 7950'.
All too often people make assumptions and there's nothing to base those assumptions off.
But it's a sad day when someone asks how to go about getting PhysX to work on AMD and they are hit with negativity from some users, despite wanting to try it out.
I think there's a reason for that - physx isn't really worth the bother for the vast majority
I'm not saying that we shouldn't help someone try it out, I think it's also fair they're told that it may not be worth the hassle and if they still want to try it out, then fine - help them
What I post about PhysX is objective. People seem to think "objective" means positive, and if you're not being positive, you're not being objective.
I'd written one of those for a friend trying to choose his gfx card and was thinking of posting it here, however, if you gave specific, helpful info, then it'd get outdated quickly. If it's too generic, then it won't really be that helpful.
Another issue is that if I did post it, people would get over pedantic over it and it'd just turn into a fanboy flame war and get deleted
Something like this could be helpful, one of the questions asked should be whether they intend to overclock, GPU or CPU its one of the few questions that can really affect which parts or suggested and so often it isn't even mentioned
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You're right that was the main message, but I bet this thread was born out of the multitude of pointless squabbles that have gone on recently.
Obviously I have little authority to judge a forum I don't frequent that much, but you have to see it from a newcomers point of view. The advice here is amazing, there's some real helpful and insightful posts around, which is why I've come hear on two occassions when looking to upgrade to help me decide, but the amount of posts I have to skip to find the helpful info isn't a great advertisment for what is otherwise one of the better forums on the subject.
I appreciate people will get defensive over this, it's natural. In the end though it's just my opinion which you can by all means ignore.
LOL ive noticed its the same group of people each time also.
Before i joined i read a lot of threads and it was still the same people.
Its only a bit of fun most of the time but some are petty and theres no point to them.
A lot of those things often get asked tbf but not as often as should be.
Maybe but these petty squabbles are what comes with any Vs.
I have been a gamer since the days of the Spectrum 48K and remember the arguments then between the C64 users. Then onto the Snes/Megadrive - Amiga/Amstrad - AMD/Nvidia...It is a cycle that will always go on, as long as competition is there.
The issue is that people are always going to stray when they see something they don't like and it's always going to be then going back and forth which isn't a problem normally except the quality of debate is often extremely poor. Coherence is a massive problem here in this forum and personally I just can't let an incoherent argument sit there without saying anything...
An opinion I disagree with is fine to sit there though of course. There is a massive distinction between an opinion based on incoherent reasonings and an opinion on sound logic which you disagree with.
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A lot of the times the arguments are between a fanboy and someone who knows what they're on about.It usually starts by the OP asking for some advice, saying they have, say, a 7950 in mind and want to play a medium settings on Dirt showdown, then the fanboy will say that they're wrong and that a 680 is the only thing to buy "bcuz AMD haz sucky drivarz and evry AMD uzar cnt uhfford nvidia - innit" and then the argument starts from there...