Do we as a forum need a bit more consistency in our recommendations

[spoffle]

He's £100 down on original purchase price (adding the money "earnt" from selling the 680s)
His performance is adequate for his needs, going to 7950s less so in the context of benchmarking.

Do you like to argue for argument's sake? A couple of threads back (no idea which) Greg mentioned his reasons for keeping the 680s instead of hopping ship to AMD (irrespective of the performance boost he would get from doing so)

That's not even the argument. I'm not telling him to swap to 7950s, I was giving context to what I was talking about because I was asked.

I'm well aware of Greg's reasons for having/keeping 680s as I went on further to say in that other thread:

Gregster's largely irrelevant in this case anyway since he's tied in to 3D Vision.

I said it because I found it to be an interesting observation with it not being very often that such a situation like that crops up.

But this isn't so because I would lose 3D and I would lose PhysX and instead of getting 70fps I get 75fps. I can't see that as profit. The only way I would profit is if I sell my 680s for more than I paid for them. Basic maths no?

I know you would, as above, I said so myself. It was an observation in outright performance terms, not an argument for why you should go and do it.

It wouldn't be a profit based on original purchase price, no. It depends on how you look at it though, have you had more than £100's worth out of them already if you were to sell up? I'm guessing you'd say yes?

In pure performance terms (which I know doesn't apply to you, but that's not the point) I was saying that you'd get an upgrade, with money back on it. I was pointing it out because it's not very often such a situation like that crops up.

 

[Gregster]

Well you could get the 3D back and PhysX is so-so.

I can see where he's coming from, don't quite get the heat he's taking for it, but meh.

Problem with forums/Discussions around PC hardware etc, is we're all soo damn arrogant

How would I get the 3D back?

 

[Martini1991]

How would I get the 3D back?

Surely you could use Tridef, yes you might pay for it, but you'd still have an extra few hundred than you have now with the same/better relative performance.

Doesn't make a difference to me, I just felt Spoffle took some unwarranted heat.

 

[Gregster]

Surely you could use Tridef, yes you might pay for it, but you'd still have an extra few hundred than you have now with the same/better relative performance.

Doesn't make a difference to me, I just felt Spoffle took some unwarranted heat.

My monitors have built in Nvidia 3D Vision and will not work with Tridef. This would also mean selling the monitors (at a loss) and buying new monitors. Sorry but that is just silly and my monitors use Lightboost, which is great for bringing the brightness up in 3D and eliminates ghosting. I am not sure if AMD have anything like this?

Whilst I understand you defending Spoffle, it makes no sense for me to sell up and switch over (unless AMD have equivalent 3D) and regardless of how it is plastered over, I would lose money.

 

[Martini1991]

I see posts on Tridef with people using that monitor.

http://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2509

Your monitor AFAIK and Tridef.

Have you ever tried the Tridef trial? If not, I'd do it now for curiosity's sake.

 

[whyscotty]

Not forgetting crossfire eyefinity on X79 doesn't work
so you would need a new CPU/MOBO also

 

[Martini1991]

Not forgetting crossfire eyefinity on X79 doesn't work
so you would need a new CPU/MOBO also

Well there's not really anywhere he can go CPU/Mobo wise, it's not worth compromising, and no one's suggesting he do so.

 

[spoffle]

Well there's not really anywhere he can go CPU/Mobo wise, it's not worth compromising, and no one's suggesting he do so.

Exactly, what I don't get is why it's only really you who's able to see that.

 

[~>Dg<~]

i think with the amount of us or maybe ocuk head quarters should do benchmarks for most popular games .

have a table with the cards and games and relevant info

this would be very helpful to people and maybe even increas sales for ocuk.


what card do i need for bf3 at 1920 x1080 ?

goto chart see relavant cards and price.


skyim same as above see


it shouldnt be hard to do and i just dont get why bigger places forums dont do this . sure you wont have some of the games but if you cover the mainstream big games for eg bf3 , skyrim , wow , call of duty , arma 2 you will by enlarge do a good job.

this would be good for cpus aswell

hopefully this happens at some point . i dont mind helping if i have to but i think a professiobal approach by the shop would be better

 

[CyberCrow]

Christ think some of you need to grow up or take it to the play ground!

Nearly 3 pages of childish arguing over some thing that every one is supposed to enjoy as a hobby or past time.

Guy's just get over it an use them ignore button's FFS.

 

[Mei]

i think with the amount of us or maybe ocuk head quarters should do benchmarks for most popular games .

have a table with the cards and games and relevant info

this would be very helpful to people and maybe even increas sales for ocuk.


what card do i need for bf3 at 1920 x1080 ?

goto chart see relavant cards and price.


skyim same as above see


it shouldnt be hard to do and i just dont get why bigger places forums dont do this . sure you wont have some of the games but if you cover the mainstream big games for eg bf3 , skyrim , wow , call of duty , arma 2 you will by enlarge do a good job.

this would be good for cpus aswell

hopefully this happens at some point . i dont mind helping if i have to but i think a professiobal approach by the shop would be better

id like this a lot, but maybe with enough requests or something we could add more unusual games, review sites always pick the same games, and i dont play the ones they pick lol

so really its impossible for me to know without asking a lot people who play the game ><

 

[Gregster]

i think with the amount of us or maybe ocuk head quarters should do benchmarks for most popular games .

have a table with the cards and games and relevant info

this would be very helpful to people and maybe even increas sales for ocuk.


what card do i need for bf3 at 1920 x1080 ?

goto chart see relavant cards and price.


skyim same as above see


it shouldnt be hard to do and i just dont get why bigger places forums dont do this . sure you wont have some of the games but if you cover the mainstream big games for eg bf3 , skyrim , wow , call of duty , arma 2 you will by enlarge do a good job.

this would be good for cpus aswell

hopefully this happens at some point . i dont mind helping if i have to but i think a professiobal approach by the shop would be better

I agree with the part of OcUK doing the benchmarks. If we do them, the person who spends hours upon hours doing the benchmarks gets called into question over the validity of them or the way you shouldn't put stock when stock isn't publicised for a particular card.

 

[weehamish]

Gregs like a rottweiler so dont **** him off lol, he will follow you now for atleast 2 months and point out every mistake you make, have sly digs at you and try make you look a fool.

I think what spoffle is saying is youve had 100 quids worth of fun with the 680s your gonna get some cash back if you swap to 7950s and then the 3D thing is worth a bash.

Dont ever bring up Physx i mean come on, ive had it at max in borderlands 2 and it adds very little, the jelly from the toxic guns is fun for 10 mins but not 100s of quids fun.

Still if i was greg i wouldnt bother selling anything and keep his lovely machine.

 

[HangTime]

No I don't believe we do. The whole point of a forum is to debate the various merits of a given issue and if everyone was recommending the same thing over and over it would be pretty boring.

It is very rare you see a request for advice with very explicit requirements (as you've pointed out, 'high' resolution means different things to different people etc), so there is a bit of scope to talk around the issue.

Present the facts and let people make informed decisions - in some cases that means multiple people presenting different facts, which broadens the horizons.

 

[weehamish]

No I don't believe we do. The whole point of a forum is to debate the various merits of a given issue and if everyone was recommending the same thing over and over it would be pretty boring.

It is very rare you see a request for advice with very explicit requirements (as you've pointed out, 'high' resolution means different things to different people etc), so there is a bit of scope to talk around the issue.

Present the facts and let people make informed decisions - in some cases that means multiple people presenting different facts, which broadens the horizons.

If everyone was the same it would be a boring world!

 

[bru]

At the end of the day I do think it wouldn't hurt for all of us to just stop and think a moment before we post.
I'm sure if I did more often I wouldn't get into as many silly arguments/discussions.

 

[weehamish]

At the end of the day I do think it wouldn't hurt for all of us to just stop and think a moment before we post.
I'm sure if I did more often I wouldn't get into as many silly arguments/discussions.

Wheres the fun in that?

I enjoy gregs wars, he has atleast one a day, aslong as not past 3 pages i dont mind lol, but some do go on and on.

 

[arc@css]

I think the problem is simply the 'way' people go about expressing themselves, rather than what the subject is about. Unfortunately, the only cure for this is the accumulation of wisdom through time and experience, and maybe the ban hammer.

 

[SkodaMart]

I think the problem is simply the 'way' people go about expressing themselves.

This is the major disadvantage of communication without eye contact.
It is very easy to read a post incorrectly or understand a post incorrectly.

Edit: It's also very easy to wind people up and post carelessly without fear of a black eye!

 

[Gregster]

My apologies for picking a random thread to give a game away for free Sorry mods and I will not do it again.

Also my apologies to anyone who was offended reading this thread. It wasn't my intention to go off on one but I can see I did. Again, I apologise.