Do you agree, something massive is about to happen ?

dirtydog said:
Indeed, somehow these novice pilots were able to pull off manoeuvres that many veteran military and commercial pilots have stated would be difficult or impossible to achieve even by the most skilled pilots.

Somehow these Saudis with box cutters were able to get NORAD to suspend its normal air defence system whereby fighters would be automatically scrambled to intercept jets with any sort of problem, like happened with Payne Stewart's learjet.

THAT is the conspiracy theory that YOU and others believe. I agree, it is a very unbelievable conspiracy theory. Why do so many believe it then? I suppose because to believe the US government could have had any kind of foreknowledge or complicity in the 9/11 attacks, that they could have instigated them, or facilitated their being carried out in any way at all, is too horrible to contemplate.
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Ah, I see. You're taking an uncommon definition of conspiracy theory, strictly correct in that there was a conspiracy to crash the planes but not what is understood by the term conspiracy theory in common parlance. Would you also refer to a bank robbery by a gang as a conspiracy? And those describing the robbers modus operandi as conspiracy theorists?

The Mad Rapper said:
There's only one God, just known by different names depending upon which culture you are from.

Personally, I'm undecided.
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That's one option, equally there could be multiple gods who are specific to each religion with no crossover. Natually I'd be more inclined to lean towards the explanation of one god with many names but that doesn't mean it is correct - I don't really have an opinion either way about it since it doesn't impact on my life, it's merely that if there is a god I'd prefer to think that all religions could co-exist happily and that would seem the best way for that to occur.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Ah, I see. You're taking an uncommon definition of conspiracy theory, strictly correct in that there was a conspiracy to crash the planes but not what is understood by the term conspiracy theory in common parlance.
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People commonly misuse the term, that isn't my fault. I am using it correctly.
 
e36Adz said:
Don't quite get your point? Good job with what?

Are you one of those who believes because there is suffering in the world there can't be a God?
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Means there can not be a benevolent god, merely a child with an ant farm and a magnifying glass.


As the old quote goes

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
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I think that Humanity is fast reaching a point where collectively as a species we will need to decide whether we wish to continue, or go back to the dark ages, or possible become extinct.

We'll either flourish or perish. Or at least near-perish.

Also, the power-balance is shifting from West to East, Asia is rising once again, economically. Militarily, it won't be long. perhaps 30-40 years before we see a China with the ability to project a strong and capable military worldwide...

The game that we've been used to for so long is changing, for sure.
 
StarSolitude said:
perhaps 30-40 years before we see a China with the ability to project a strong and capable military worldwide...
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Will they want to though?

They seem pretty content with their own corner of the globe rather than running around sticking their military oar in
 
Tefal said:
Will they want to though?

They seem pretty content with their own corner of the globe rather than running around sticking their military oar in
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Only 58 years ago, China intervened on North Koreas behalf in the Korean war, and pretty much beat the crap out of UN forces, including the British, forcing our retreat...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfBfbdQvIhw

All China needs is a stronger navy and more air power... they have a huge army, but no way of getting it anywhere.
 
vonhelmet said:
God does things on his own timescale. The Bible makes it clear that he'll get round to sorting all this mess out when he's good and ready.
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Yes, probably by killing us all. What a *******.

I'm very much an atheist; I see no evidence of god - quite the contrary to be honest. I don't even see any evidence of karma or any kind of natural order/balance in peoples actions and consequences. So the concept of an all seeing, all powerful being who just sits there and lets children be raped and killed, or samaritans be beheaded, is frankly, laughable.


There is no god, there is nothing more than what we do here, and that is it.

All IMHO, and [honestly] no offense intended to those who do believe in something more.
 
Iran is not gona back down on its nuke program. Its latest missile testing is just a kick in the nuts for Israel/USA.

The US has gone to war on lesser things (i.e. false WMD rumours, and the taliban refusing to cooperate over one chap called bin laden).
 
The only opinion I have of god (assuming he exists that is) is that there has been far too little smiting in the recent millenia.
 
Tefal said:
Means there can not be a benevolent god, merely a child with an ant farm and a magnifying glass.

As the old quote goes...
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StevenRaith said:
Yes, probably by killing us all. What a *******.

I'm very much an atheist; I see no evidence of god - quite the contrary to be honest. I don't even see any evidence of karma or any kind of natural order/balance in peoples actions and consequences. So the concept of an all seeing, all powerful being who just sits there and lets children be raped and killed, or samaritans be beheaded, is frankly, laughable.


There is no god, there is nothing more than what we do here, and that is it.

All IMHO, and [honestly] no offense intended to those who do believe in something more.
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I believe that we as human beings are limited in our understanding, I mean we find it difficult to comprehend the vastness of the universe etc, so how can we possibly fully understand the Creator?

I do believe that God is able to prevent things from happening but the thing is, if God has prevented x and y from happening for whatever reason, you will never know about that so never comment on it. Don't get me wrong, bad/evil/sick things do happen but I don't believe they are going unseen. Everything is being recorded (according to the Islamic belief) and everything will be brought forth on a day which God has promised, on that day nothing will be hidden. Those who suffered will get what they have earned as will those who made others suffer.

This life in comparison to the next (again from the Islamic pov) is like a blink of the eye, so much so that any soul who suffered here would happily live (and suffer) this life 10 times over after having just seen the life that is waiting for them.

If based on your own life experiences and using your own judgement, you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist then I won't argue with you, everyone will only have to account for themself but one thing I do believe is that, when everything you have ever done is brought forward in front of you, those who's final abode is hell will only blame themselves and will eternally regret it. But by no means will anyone be wronged.

Sorry for taking this off topic but yeah, is something massive about to happen, just keep your eyes on Israel! Any future war will be to protect and arm and expand Israel.

God knows best. (If you don't believe in God pls don't quote this again!:p)
 
:rolleyes:

There's a huge difference between a self-fulfilling prophecy and an actual prophecy you know. If a lot of people believe something is supposed to happen, a lot of people are going to be going out of their way to make it happen aren't they? There is no God involved here; only stupid squabbling monkeys who want validating, that's it!
 
Nix said:
:rolleyes:

There's a huge difference between a self-fulfilling prophecy and an actual prophecy you know. If a lot of people believe something is supposed to happen, a lot of people are going to be going out of their way to make it happen aren't they? There is no God involved here; only stupid squabbling monkeys who want validating, that's it!
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Have a :rolleyes: back and how about you make it clear what on earth you are replying too? Who said there isn't a difference between a self fulfilling prophecy and an actual one? I sure as hell didn't. :confused:
 
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