Do you have a plan?

V F · 9 Sep 2017 at 21:25

Depends who you ask.

ttaskmaster · 11 Sep 2017 at 14:03

adolf hamster said:
I'll be honest, not sure i follow your colleagues logic there

You don't gotta follow their logic - Just follow them when they back away to give me lots of room....!!

adolf hamster · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:08

ttaskmaster said:
You don't gotta follow their logic - Just follow them when they back away to give me lots of room....!!

*Now has a mental image of ttaskmaster screaming like a lunatic with a quarterstaff in one hand and an l86 in the other while a bunch of worried looking soldiers are slowly backing away*

ttaskmaster · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:11

adolf hamster said:
*Now has a mental image of ttaskmaster screaming like a lunatic with a quarterstaff in one hand and an l86 in the other while a bunch of worried looking soldiers are slowly backing away*

Quarterstaff didn't fold up or collapse down, so that stayed home.
L86 was OK, but I was talking more about the L7!!

adolf hamster · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:22

ttaskmaster said:
Quarterstaff didn't fold up or collapse down, so that stayed home.
L86 was OK, but I was talking more about the L7!!

my knowledge of british army small arms designations failed me so i went with what i knew

ttaskmaster · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:25

adolf hamster said:
my knowledge of british army small arms designations failed me so i went with what i knew

GPMG rather than an LSW, if that helps?

Rroff · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:26

Think I'd want something a bit lighter and more mobile than something based on the FN MAG platform in a SHTF scenario. (Unless you are making a last stand or something).

Common mistake preppers make is having like 50-60kg of kits and the fitness to carry about 10.

Roar87 · 11 Sep 2017 at 16:28

I have an axe, but no plan.

ttaskmaster · 11 Sep 2017 at 17:25

Rroff said:
Think I'd want something a bit lighter and more mobile than something based on the FN MAG platform in a SHTF scenario. (Unless you are making a last stand or something).

That's why they made L7s with vehicle mounts!!
Besides, if you use the mortar properly, you shouldn't need the MG anyway, let alone need to pick everything up and 'bug out', as they say.

Rroff said:
Common mistake preppers make is having like 50-60kg of kits and the fitness to carry about 10.

I'm talking about being on a military base, hopefully one with the most secure bunkers in existence, and a myriad of different toys that go boom and bang and whoosh and bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang and all that... not some prepper-hobbyist DIY shelter made out of a rusty shipping container bought off eBay and stuffed with out-of-date MREs - I'll have rockets in my pockets, wombats in my combats, shermulies in my goolies and LAWs in my drawers!!

Rroff · 11 Sep 2017 at 17:33

ttaskmaster said:
I'm talking about being on a military base, hopefully one with the most secure bunkers in existence, and a myriad of different toys that go boom and bang and whoosh and bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang and all that... not some prepper-hobbyist DIY shelter made out of a rusty shipping container bought off eBay and stuffed with out-of-date MREs - I'll have rockets in my pockets, wombats in my combats, shermulies in my goolies and LAWs in my drawers!!

My second comment was more in general than aimed at you - I know a few IRL who take prepping very seriously - well in terms of having lots of stuff and some kind of plan - but don't actually know half of what they have or how to use it never mind the fitness to get very far with it in a "bug out" situation.

ttaskmaster · 11 Sep 2017 at 17:44

Rroff said:
My second comment was more in general than aimed at you - I know a few IRL who take prepping very seriously

I'm more worried that it seems most like to "specialise" in prepping for just one specific disaster, like zombies, nukes, global economic collapse, ewok invasion... and that half of them are prepped for what is clearly a fictional disaster!

Cromulent · 12 Sep 2017 at 05:46

Maccapacca said:
Zombies won't be zombies they'll be your neighbours.

So what you are saying is we should kill our neighbours before the zombie apocalypse?

Kronos · 12 Sep 2017 at 06:35

Cromulent said:
So what you are saying is we should kill our neighbours before the zombie apocalypse?

I am up for that, particularly one couple who if turned would even give zombies a bad name amongst zombies.

TheBrooder · 12 Sep 2017 at 06:57

Flubble said:
grab the axe out of the shed
get in the car
find several of the loudest sirens possible
string the sirens from cities and towns to the motorways
use the sirens one at a time to draw zombies from siren to siren
take down old sirens and re-use
slowly luring them to folkestone
set off last siren inside the channel tunnel
send the zombies to france
blow the tunnel up

You'd better be quicker than me, as I'm sending all the French zombies towards you!

Flubble · 12 Sep 2017 at 08:16

you'll probably win as no doubt my zombies will stop at every service station for a cup of tea

grudas · 12 Sep 2017 at 08:32

countless hours in left 4 dead have prepared me for this.

russell664 · 12 Sep 2017 at 08:43

TheBrooder said:
You'd better be quicker than me, as I'm sending all the French zombies towards you!

#faceoff

adolf hamster · 12 Sep 2017 at 10:51

ttaskmaster said:
GPMG rather than an LSW, if that helps?

yeah, although those are more "family" type aren't they? as in gpmg would also include the minimi (or m249 to use yank designations)

Rroff said:
Think I'd want something a bit lighter and more mobile than something based on the FN MAG platform in a SHTF scenario. (Unless you are making a last stand or something).

Common mistake preppers make is having like 50-60kg of kits and the fitness to carry about 10.

indeed, my zombie prepper guns would be something like a ruger 10/22 with a good suppressor, accurate enough for short-med range headshots (any zombie beyond 150-200m isn't exactly a direct threat) and enough penetration to kill a zombie, given that conventional "stopping power" is more aimed at torso shots on humans. you could carry literally thousands of rounds as opposed to hundreds for the same encumberment as say 5.56 or 7.62 nato. it'd also be excellent for hunting small game. plus with .22 being such a common caliber (especially in the uk) it wouldn't be that hard to find ammo.

then backup weapon would ideally be something like a pistol caliber smg/carbine, something light and full auto for hairy zombie moments/belligerant human survivors, possibly a stocked pistol or a vector kind of thing. again the aim is to be light, wouldnt carry as much ammo as it'd really be a last ditch die guns blazing kind of weapon.

Heinz57 · 12 Sep 2017 at 11:12

Don't need a plan - no undead would risk coming near our house since Satan's stray cat took residence under our garage. If the pile of dead birds and dismembered rodents don't put them off, then the deep facial lacerations will...

ttaskmaster · 12 Sep 2017 at 11:24

adolf hamster said:
yeah, although those are more "family" type aren't they? as in gpmg would also include the minimi (or m249 to use yank designations)

Not quite.
The 7.62 L7A2 is the FN MAG, MAG standing for something-something-something in Belgian, which translates to General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG), hence the name. The Minimi is its 5.56 replacement, but is more of a squad/platoon level support weapon (while also filling GPMG roles when 7.62 isn't a priority). It's just a bit after my time... and the L7 is still in use, AFAIK.
By contrast, the L85 and L86 are more like family weapons.

adolf hamster said:
indeed, my zombie prepper guns would be something like a ruger 10/22 with a good suppressor, accurate enough for short-med range headshots

Do not rely on headshots...

adolf hamster said:
something light and full auto for hairy zombie moments/belligerant human survivors

That requires you being in a position to drop your main weapon and switch to the backup. Not good in hairy moments, without a lot of training.