Does AMD even cross your mind?

I wish AMD were more competitive, the whole Intel Core range seems pretty stagnant, my 2nd Generation Intel Core i5 is still plenty powerful

Hopefully Zen brings something new to the table and forces Intel to up their game.
 
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Of course it does. Wouldn't buy anything else.

Still rocking my antiquated 8320 processor and it's ripping through games without pushing the CPU at all. GTA V gives it the best workout but for the most part, it's still more than adequate for what I do with it.

I played with a 5960X at a local PC event with pretty much the same PC configuration I have now bar 32Gig RAM and another motherboard and saw zero difference in game play. I'm sure if I benchmark the crap out of it it'll be 90 times as fast or something but if I'm already running at 100+ FPS on most, if not all of my games, why bother?
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Your AMD CPU must be magic then.
 
Gpu wise anything below a 980 ti price point amd wins easily imo and above nvidia. As for cpus amds cpus are fine for low end builds and can be very cost effective but for mid range and high end intel all the way i have a 5820k.
 
regulus said:
Of course it does. Wouldn't buy anything else.

Still rocking my antiquated 8320 processor and it's ripping through games without pushing the CPU at all. GTA V gives it the best workout but for the most part, it's still more than adequate for what I do with it.

I played with a 5960X at a local PC event with pretty much the same PC configuration I have now bar 32Gig RAM and another motherboard and saw zero difference in game play. I'm sure if I benchmark the crap out of it it'll be 90 times as fast or something but if I'm already running at 100+ FPS on most, if not all of my games, why bother?
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You sir should be on stage.
 
Yep,

I only buy AMD GPU's quite frankly if it runs in 1080p i'm happy and AMD can do that for a lot less than Nvidia I can't justify paying more for the same.

CPU's yeh in a way, I have a very old Intel atm, but I'm waiting for Zen for my next upgrade, if it's competitive in performance I'll go with AMD because it's almost certain it would be cheaper.

Mind you I only play games and in that area AMD are closer to Intel than anything else.
 
Cpu: nope never have never will

Gpu: i've tried a few in the past and been stung never again ATI Rage Fury MAXX,Ati 4870x2 and Amd 7970 im looking at you....

I miss my Nvidia TNT 2 ultra :(
 
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leon4112 said:
Cpu: nope never have never will

Gpu: i've tried a few in the past and been stung never again ATI Rage Fury MAXX,Ati 4870x2 and Amd 7970 im looking at you....

I miss my Nvidia TNT 2 ultra :(
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So even if AMD Zen turns out to be amazing and beats Intel you wont? Even if it was the same performance but cheaper you wouldn't? :rolleyes:
 
kieran_read said:
So even if AMD Zen turns out to be amazing and beats Intel you wont? Even if it was the same performance but cheaper you wouldn't? :rolleyes:
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Nope since i've just upgraded to a full x99 build and a 5930k nothing amd will bring out this year will beat even that and that has been out already for over a year.

Seen this coming for a very long time been building pc's and working in the industry for 18 years and from the 15000 pc's we support the last of the amd based dell/hp machines have gone for good in the last 2-3 years. Intel have just done better in the last 10 years and i can't see that changing no matter how much you want it to.
 
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regulus said:
Yep.

I even stood ready to upgrade my CPU a few weeks ago (even made a post here I think) until I saw that I hardly stood to gain many FPS at all.
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yep, I will be upgrading this year, I'm waiting for AMD/Nvidia and AMD/Intel for the new architecture before I do, but i'll be looking at purely gaming performance, I may play about with Unreal Engine but not enough to warrant a processor just for it. All the other bells and whistles can do one, i'm not paying £200 more for an extra 5fps.

I suspect all will run games pretty similarly so I will go with the best value.

leon4112 said:
Nope since i've just upgraded to a full x99 build and a 5930k nothing amd will bring out this year will beat even that and that has been out already for over a year.

Seen this coming for a very long time been building pc's and working in the industry for 18 years and from the 15000 pc's we support the last of the amd based dell/hp machines have gone for good in the last 2-3 years. Intel have just done better in the last 10 years and i can't see that changing no matter how much you want it to.
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Couldn't disagree more.

You refer to the "Industry" as though it's all about performance. It really isn't it's about value for 99% of business, they want a PC that runs Word and Excel and couldn't care about anything else, we argue here about which is more powerful but in reality most companies don't care.

It will come down to best value for money. This time round both AMD and Intel will be on the same fabrication, AMD with APU's will be more likely to perform better than Intels onboard counterparts as such if they market it right they will win back some market share.

If anything the ONLY thing that prevents AMD from performing well is quite frankly it's god awful marketing. AMD and Intel are so close to each other in performance when it comes to games, yet people will spend way more money on an Intel processor for similar performance despite someone who owns a AMD processor having pretty much the same FPS.

The issue is when it comes to performance there as so many different areas different programs which benefits different things most people don't use/need but people roll them all into one (Which for Intels marketing team is a massive win).

For me personally while I have an Intel now I would have no issue going red, even if the performance isn't as good if it's £200+ cheaper it's worth it.

Just my opinion anyway =)
 
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kieran_read said:
yep, I will be upgrading this year, I'm waiting for AMD/Nvidia and AMD/Intel for the new architecture before I do, but i'll be looking at purely gaming performance, I may play about with Unreal Engine but not enough to warrant a processor just for it. All the other bells and whistles can do one, i'm not paying £200 more for an extra 5fps.

I suspect all will run games pretty similarly so I will go with the best value.



Couldn't disagree more.

You refer to the "Industry" as though it's all about performance. It really isn't it's about value for 99% of business, they want a PC that runs Word and Excel and couldn't care about anything else, we argue here about which is more powerful but in reality most companies don't care.

It will come down to best value for money. This time round both AMD and Intel will be on the same fabrication, AMD with APU's will be more likely to perform better than Intels onboard counterparts as such if they market it right they will win back some market share.

If anything the ONLY thing that prevents AMD from performing well is quite frankly it's god awful marketing. AMD and Intel are so close to each other in performance when it comes to games, yet people will spend way more money on an Intel processor for similar performance despite someone who owns a AMD processor having pretty much the same FPS.

The issue is when it comes to performance there as so many different areas different programs which benefits different things most people don't use/need but people roll them all into one (Which for Intels marketing team is a massive win).

For me personally while I have an Intel now I would have no issue going red, even if the performance isn't as good if it's £200+ cheaper it's worth it.

Just my opinion anyway =)
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Well it is all about performance these pc's get used for around 3-4 years before replacement and with all the build and software these pc's use for just people using word etc still needs something better than a mid range amd cpu which is why big manufacturer don't use them anymore or we would have some the i3 and i5 that are in our base machines are better than amd ones.


AMD just need to sell up to Microsoft and get it over with or they will end up like 3dfx.
 
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AMD have long decided not to compete in high end performance computing. They even opted out of the mhz race long time ago when intel and amd were outcompeting each other on clock speed and AMD decided to change things up and come up with their own metrics as they felt running cpus at higher and higher clock speeds isn't the answer but to make the CPU more efficient and process calculations better.

The market for high end gaming is limited, quad core cpu is not the future. Multi core cpus like the gpu are the way. tablets, smarphones outsell performance cpus by a huge margin. So it makes sense for AMD to focus on that market. On tablets, efficiency is the key. Battery limitations are huge, and AMD are well placed to serve this need.

I just hope Intel doesn't start to get lazy due to adbsense of competition
 
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Since the board from my main rig needs to be rma'd, I'm about to put my phenom ii under water. If it's fine for 4k gaming I may even keep it as the main and sell the Ibe bits.
 
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