Does AMD even cross your mind?

Well I actually have a Formula z AM3+ mobo and an AMD 8320 and a 6300 CPU in my little place under my stairs ...but since I have been using my Intel setup...its just sitting doing nothing ...so I mainly gonna keep it in case my current setup fails on me and I have no money to replace it...but I'm actually looking for a mobo ( Intel ) to run my 780 sli setup that has a slot or two more for a bit more air flow space than the 2cms I have now lol
 
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Even AMD use Intel CPU's to show off the GPU's.

But I hope AMD can match Intel as competition would be good.
 
PooKer said:
Even AMD use Intel CPU's to show off the GPU's.

But I hope AMD can match Intel as competition would be good.
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Serious? That's a pretty damning indictment.

For me i miss my socket A athlon builds, but see absolutely no reason to go AMD even for mid-range builds, let alone high end.

On the GPU side, it still feels like AMD have a few decent horses in the race.
 
Forgot about GPU's. I still consider AMD GPU's but if I go for the G Sync monitor I have my eye on then I shall be tied to Nvidia. My old AMD 5850 is still the best overclocking GPU I have ever had.
 
Golf1.6 said:
AMD have long decided not to compete in high end performance computing. They even opted out of the mhz race long time ago when intel and amd were outcompeting each other on clock speed and AMD decided to change things up and come up with their own metrics as they felt running cpus at higher and higher clock speeds isn't the answer but to make the CPU more efficient and process calculations better.
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Well.. AMD came up with their own performance ratings because they felt it better represented the performance of their Athlon range against the previous thunderbird cores (though everybody knew it was really about intel). this was at a time when the general public was chasing mhz, so it was in AMDs interest to change that that opinion as they were on the back foot.

Also higher clockspeeds isnt the answer, no, but it didnt stop AMD releasing the 4.7ghz fx-9590 Bulldozer....
 
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I was really keen on bulldozer promises. I stopped caring after its release.
If they come out with something competitive (and pocket friendly) I'll happily switch.
 
Wouldn't consider an AMD CPU at the minute. But would possibly get one of their gpu's although I do indeed prefer nvidia gpu's.
 
Last 2 builds have been intel cpu, i5 4670k and i7 4820k. i5 Running with nvidia gpu and i7 running with 2x AMD R9 290. I would have gone with nvidia for the i7 but could only afford a sign 290 at the time.
 
If I was buying a new high end gaming PC right now I would say I would choose Intel. However I currently have 3 main PCs all of which use AMD processors. The 'media PC' downstairs uses a stock clocked phenom 2 940 at 3 GHz coupled with an Nvidia 760. It seems to cope just fine in all the games I play on it, whats the point in upgrading?

My gaming PC is an AMD 8350 water cooled up to 5GHz with an Nvidia 970 @ 1507 Mhz, I haven't found any game it wont play maxed out at good frame rates.

Also just put together an Ubuntu PC which runs an AMD 4300 (3.8GHz) which I have overclocked with no voltage increase to 4.5GHz at 50 degrees load. That CPU for 4 cores at 4.5Ghz cost me 49 quid and plays games just fine.

There's always going to be better hardware coming out that runs faster but if I game at 120fps or 140fps what does it matter? I still find AMD offers generally good value and overclockability / cores, plus they don't change their CPU sockets every fortnight so you have a bit of milage out of your motherboards.
 
High end gaming probably not but for budget builds I'd say they offer a great value. You have to keep in mind that cheapest i5 is around £150. My mum is still rocking my ancient Phenom 955 (which at the time played everything I needed it to play on max settings) and considering the newer quad cores can be had for £50-80 while giving better performance and including half decent GPUs, it seems like you couldn't get much out of intel on a tight budget. Having a quick look at decent APU benchmarks it seems like AMD APUs provide double the performance of whatever intel has to offer for less than half the price. Seems like a no brainer to me for a cheap casual gaming PC / media station.

GPU wise, I've had both AMD and Nvidia in the past but AMD seemed to offer better value more often as Nvidia GPUs used to be stupidly expensive.

Everyone seems so crazy nowadays about little performance gains (OH, THIS CPU IS WHOOPING 5% FASTER) but in real world there isn't much difference outside of benchmarks and most mid range CPUs can handle majority of tasks just fine.

Nowadays it's the SSD and GPU that make the most.
 
At 4k, where screens and card outputs are limited to 60hz, the cpu performance matters a lot less.

You do get better minimums with better IPC though but the overall performace is probably very similar on AMD and Intel.
 
I doubt Zen will even close the gap, the only thing they will have is the lower price point.

But Intel desperately need competition, Intel in competition mode is best for everyone. They've been sleeping for years now.
 
faceman123 said:
I've been looking at the forums, and now it's been a long time since anyone's even recommended/Enquired about a High end AMD build. I'm guilty of immediately thinking Intel/Nvidia. AMD graphics/Processor aren't even an after thought. Should the ZEN be competitive again (hopefully), would you consider going down that path?
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If AMD don't cross your mind for graphics now then it doesn't really matter what they release as they are already competitive.
 
As most people on here are saying GPU yes, CPU at present no. Last CPU I had was on a socket 939 board and at the time was brilliant and very competitive. Shame they don't seem to focus on competing in the high-end, competition stimulates innovation!
 
I personally have had ADM CPUs for... 20 years? My previous rig (Athlon 64 X2 4200+) is still quite decent moving games. I always found a great price/performance relationship in them.

However when I started thinking about the PC in the signature I asked in another forum about a "AMD gaming computer" and th thread just went in flames. So today I wouldn't... in the future if they get closer to Intel? most probably.
 
As someone who been a stout AMD supporter for years, I have just purchased and built an i5 skylake setup.

You used to be able to build an AMD rig for a reasonable amount cheaper than Intel, but the price gap is shrinking all the time and now there is very little difference between them.

How does it compare?

On iracing (1080p over triple screen setup) - my usual haunt


AMD FX8350 with asrock 990fx killer board, 8gb DDR3 1600 ram and GTX970 = 40min fps, 65max

Intel i5 6600(non K) with asrock z170m Extreme4 board, 8gb DDR4 2400 ram and GTX970 = 92min fps, capped at 100max fps

I AM BLOWN AWAY.

I am converted.
 
Just progress I guess.
AMD CPUs could never be considered for high-end, at this moment in time, because the only CPUs they have out are absolute relics.

Looking forward to seeing where Zen goes, but I don't believe it'll take the performance crown away.
 
Huggie86 said:
I doubt Zen will even close the gap, the only thing they will have is the lower price point.

But Intel desperately need competition, Intel in competition mode is best for everyone. They've been sleeping for years now.
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This. I hope not though, If this is the case, AMD RIP.

I've not seen this much anticipation since bulldozer, I hope they deliver, I was ready to pull trigger on Furyx although soon realized how it was a flop vs a 980ti, Again all hype nothing delivered.

Yes AMD are cheaper, but in the long run i believe you make more money back via power saving/resale value/longevity on an Intel setup vs an AMD. I hope AMD are bought over by some major corp who pumps money in to them. It's about time Inteland nvidia had a boot up their back side.
 
I would only consider an AMD CPU in a mid or low budget build. AMD CPUs haven't been competitive at the high end for years now. I'd consider AMD GPUs in builds for all budgets though.
 
GPU's - Yes
APU's - in a light gaming rig, HTPC or office machine, yes
CPU's - only the 8320 would i consider, and only in specific circumstances
 
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