Does something need to be done about dogs?

Ayahuasca said:
There's still not much information on what can be reported as an attack.
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seems to me an attack is where a postie is injured?
Royal Mail today announced there were 1,916 dog attacks reported on its staff last year, an average of 37 attacks every week across the UK, with some leading to permanent and disabling injuries.

There were 381 injuries suffered through the letterbox - accounting for 20% of attacks on postal workers. Letterbox attacks were the subject of a 2020 High Court ruling that stated dog owners (or those in care of a dog) can be prosecuted if their pets have free access to the letterbox and cause injury to any delivery operative, whether the owner is at home or not.
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C Kent said:
seems to me an attack is where a postie is injured?
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That's just for the letterbox attacks, and as I asked on the previous page, if a dog paws the posties hand and causes a light scratch, is that still considered an attack?

I'm not saying the above is OK, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the issue.
 
SpellowHouse said:
That's sounds like the average American trying to justify guns.
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We don't have more dogs than people, and we're not taking fully-automatic AK47 high capacity assault dogs into schools to deliberately kill dozens of children on a daily basis, though.

Doobedoo said:
Mandate all letter boxes need to be higher from the ground. Problem solved you are welcome humanity.
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Listed building. Local council's computer says No. Cannot make such alterations.
 
ttaskmaster said:
We don't have more dogs than people, and we're not taking fully-automatic AK47 high capacity assault dogs into schools to deliberately kill dozens of children on a daily basis, though.


Listed building. Local council's computer says No. Cannot make such alterations.
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They can put cages on the otherside though. All new doors and builds can be mandated.
 
Dis86 said:

Later on it gives more details. Seems @VincentHanna only a minority of these were bites through letterboxes
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Ok, but i'm not defending dogs that bite post peoples fingers, I was specifically responding to a person who said dogs should be kept "in" if they want post delivered.

FYI my dogs:

Don't bark when people post things, knock at my door or ring my doorbell.
Don't have access to my front door, because I have a 4ft high gate separating the hallway from the rest of the downstairs. This is to stop them going upstairs where they are not wanted.
 
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ttaskmaster said:
We don't have more dogs than people, and we're not taking fully-automatic AK47 high capacity assault dogs into schools to deliberately kill dozens of children on a daily basis, though
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If 'assault rifles' were banned people would still murder one another, if dogs were banned there would be zero deaths.
 
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C Kent said:
If 'assault rifles' were banned people would still murder one another, if dogs were banned there would be zero deaths.
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Wow, I didn't realise the mere fact that dogs existed and were allowed to be owned, prevented humans achieving immortality.

But seriously, I think there would be a lot more suicides, people with mental health issues and ultimately, murders, if you banned 10 million households who currently have a dog from having them.

According to a 10 year old study, they also saved (back then) the NHS £2.5 billion a year on mental health.

The list of benefits from companion animals is much longer. Owning a pet, particularly a dog, improves survival rate following a heart attack and appears to improve survival from breast cancer. Health benefits of owning include the lowering of blood pressure (individuals with a positive attitude to companion animals had lower blood pressure levels than those with a negative attitude). Pet ownership is also linked to lower levels of allergic rhinitis, asthma, and eczema in infants. Dog ownership increases the amount of physical exercise that people take, with the health benefits that that brings. Dog walking also reduces social isolation, which is a major contributor to mental health.

It is in the area of mental health that animals may have their largest impact. Mental health problems affect up to one in four people at some time in their life, and the increase in people living alone will probably increase this figure. Individuals owning companion animals appear to have better psychological well-being, with companion animal owners reporting greater happiness and health compared to non-owners. Companion animals can reduce anxiety in families, and can have beneficial effects in families with autistic children, and with coping with life events such as bereavement. Pet owners also tend to have fewer visits to the doctor for medical problems.

In the UK, based on 2013 health expenditure figures, the saving due to the existence of companion animals was £2.45 billion. This is an approximate but conservative estimate, and does not include other benefits such as fewer days off work. This figure is significantly large to draw the attention of public health policy makers. There are many other ways in which animals contribute to health, such as with therapy dogs, hearing dogs, dogs for the blind, and classroom dogs.
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VincentHanna said:
Wow, I didn't realise the mere fact that dogs existed and were allowed to be owned, prevented humans achieving immortality.
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Well done, whose a clever boy. Still got it I see

But seriously, I think there would be a lot more suicides, people with mental health issues and ultimately, murders, if you banned 10 million households who currently have a dog from having them.

According to a 10 year old study, they also saved (back then) the NHS £2.5 billion a year on mental health.
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And yet you are all too willing to ignore the figures that guns/gun owners prevent an estimated 300,000 to 3 million murders, violent crimes and rape in the US alone, but thats off topic for this thread :)
 
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C Kent said:
Neither will be banned, just pointing out the stupidity of your point.
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But... what about zero deaths? As another poster has said, even one is one too many.
Surely the only way forward is to ban the problem thing and stop so many senseless deaths?

As for the "stupidity" - Several other posters have already gone into long, rambling explanations as to exactly why the guns/dogs analogy is invalid, some despite also using it themselves.
 
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