Does something need to be done about dogs?

ttaskmaster said:
It's also understanding that animals (not just dogs, by the way) won't always understand what this small, screaming, flailing creature is, and that its behaviour isn't a threat, especially dogs with a high prey drive like Jack Russells.
Or do you somehow expect animals to have the same level of comprehension as you?
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I'd expect an animal that can kill to be banned like every other animal is that has that ability.
ttaskmaster said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you did start throwing your kid around just for crying, although you'd not be the first to do that...
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And I wouldn't be surprised if you regularly took dog ****, although you'd not be the first to do that..
ttaskmaster said:
So is a child.
Heck, many humans aren't rational thinkers as, with ^this knowledge, why would any parent leave their kid and their dog together unattended...?
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Beats me, probably because they believe their little bundle of fur is fully trained and little Fido certainly wouldn't do that, he's such a gentle caring creature around little Timmy.
ttaskmaster said:
Furthermore, in light of this stupidity, many studies have asserted that the majority of dog attacks and kills were both predictable and preventable. So again, we're back to humans being primarily at fault.
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Let's have some big cats unbanned, after all it's just the humans that own them and train them there are responsible for them tearing someone's face off.
 
C Kent said:
I'd expect an animal that can kill to be banned like every other animal is that has that ability.
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Really?
It's gonna be one hell of an empty planet in your little utopia... and ecoloically short-lived too, I expect.
Then again, the lack of humans does have considerable merit. This nation certainly appreciates your sacrifice.

C Kent said:
And I wouldn't be surprised if you regularly took dog ****, although you'd not be the first to do that.
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Sorry, the genius sentiment and stunning nuance is not really effective with the asterisks - Can you re-phrase?

C Kent said:
Beats me, probably because they believe their little bundle of fur is fully trained and little Fido certainly wouldn't do that, he's such a gentle caring creature around little Timmy.
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In other words, they're not rational thinkers, so why do you expect the same of a dog?

C Kent said:
Let's have some big cats unbanned, after all it's just the humans that own them and train them there are responsible for them tearing someone's face off.
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Certainly. No problem.
But just as with dogs, it will still be the human owner responsible for ensuring, in all reasonable circumstances, that the animal does not harm anyone.

C Kent said:
You need a license for a snake, and I believe any old tom,dick or harry cannot just own horse/cows or pigs either
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Anyone can own a horse. Licences are for commercial use only.
Anyone can own livestock, they just have to register on the Mark database.
Anyone can own most things, and it's usually only wild or venomous creatures that need any special licencing.
 
VincentHanna said:
Horses? Cows? Pigs? Snakes?
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How many of those things do you regularly see mooching around the streets or in people's homes? How many children are killed by them each year?

As already explained, things like cows and pigs serve a purpose (nom nom nom). Although i'm not averse to serving up a bit of Honey the Pomeranian or Dexter the Collie...
 
VincentHanna said:
Wrong - Only certain snakes need a license and you can certainly buy ones that can kill without needing a license.
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Yes, sorry I should have added the disclaimer of venomous, but I believe certain constrictors also require permits.
VincentHanna said:
Wrong
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Yeah, I wonder how long Fred in his flat would be able to keep a pet cow for :p Point being you'll require land to keep any of those 3 as pets, unless you fancy a visit from the RSPCA and end up being done for animal cruelty
 
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Dis86 said:
How many of those things do you regularly see mooching around the streets or in people's homes? How many children are killed by them each year?
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www.sciencedaily.com

Rising numbers of exotic snakebites reported in the UK: Although still very rare, exotic snakebites in the UK are increasing and victims have included 13 children aged 5-and-under

Exotic snakebites recorded in the UK have 'soared' over the course of a decade, as numbers of the exotic pet increase.
www.sciencedaily.com
OMG... Does Something Need To Be Done About Snakes???!!!

"In 2002, there were an estimated 13,400 emergency department visits nationwide for horse-related injuries among children younger than 15 years. When using a severity score to compare it with other childhood injuries, equestrian-related injury ranked second only to pedestrians being struck by a car, and had a higher score than all terrain vehicle, bicycle, and passenger motor vehicle crash injuries".

OMG... Does Something Need To Be Done About Horses???!!!
Seriously, there was only an average of 9,000 annual hospital visits for dog bites, including adults. This 13,400 horse injury count is just kids alone!!

Pigs and cows only have a few kills each, excluding adult farm workers who make up the vast majority of the death stats... But those of us anywhere near a rural setting regularly see (and have to stop the car for) people out walking their livestock. And you know what? NONE of them have their livestock on a lead... Seriously, not a single one.
Forget people walking dogs, these lunatics are walking several dozen of these beasts, each weighing several times that of an XL Bully, and not a single one is on a lead!!
The only forms of control they have over these hulking monsters is a big stick, and a single Border Collie that flits and twitches around behind the animals... and do any of them pick up their animals' poo? Of course not!!

Does Something Need To Be Done About Farmers???!!!

C Kent said:
Yeah, I wonder how long Fred in his flat would be able to keep a pet cow for :p Point being you'll require land to keep any of those 3 as pets, unless you fancy a visit from the RSPCA and end up being done for animal cruelty
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Dunno about cows... Pigs, on the other hand: https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/housing-and-enironment-for-your-mini-pig
 
sidimmu said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-punching-puppy-head-throwing-dog-street.html
Apologies for daily mail link, just linking what I was shown.
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The follow-on 'related' videos are even worse. There's a woman with what looks like an adult German Shepherd cornered in the kitchen, and she's just absolutely smashing the **** out of it with something.
It just cowers and tries to run away, while screaming in pain.

C Kent said:
Think ya link is broken as there isn't any information about housing a mini pig when I click it :(
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Link under housing & environment:

Know Your Pet | VCA Animal Hospitals

Concerned about a specific illness or is your pet showing symptoms of a certain disease? Search our extensive pet health library for answers on animal health.
vcahospitals.com vcahospitals.com

Shouldn't have mobile phones anyway. Dangerous things, they are. They cause road crashes, you know....
Hey, I wonder, does something need to be done....?
 
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ttaskmaster said:
The follow-on 'related' videos are even worse. There's a woman with what looks like an adult German Shepherd cornered in the kitchen, and she's just absolutely smashing the **** out of it with something.
It just cowers and tries to run away, while screaming in pain.


Want me to C&P into a PM for you?

Link under housing & environment:

Know Your Pet | VCA Animal Hospitals

Concerned about a specific illness or is your pet showing symptoms of a certain disease? Search our extensive pet health library for answers on animal health.
vcahospitals.com vcahospitals.com

Shouldn't have mobile phones anyway. Dangerous things, they are. They cause road crashes, you know....
Hey, I wonder, does something need to be done....?
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Oh, apparently you still need a license for a mini pig though
 
Foghorn Leghorn said:
It's not that hard to understand, all animals have tolerance levels (including humans) and these vary (swing wildly would be more appropriate, based on my wifes' mood from day to day :D )

Ever been woken abruptly from sleep? dazed, confused, wondering what the **** is going on? doesn't just happen to us. Don't leave your kids alone with animals, it's for the safety of the kids AND the animals.
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Maybe. This wee boy went to the bathroom then back into bed forgetting close the door. The result?



Several years the family came back for another visit. He remembered Max, my dog - it was mutual.

 
Seven-year-old girl treated in hospital after dog attack in Merseyside

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Kids not even safe in parks from random dog attack these days. Lacerations to the head, sure it was just a playful little nip eh?
 
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