Does something need to be done about dogs?

[Brazo]

The crux of the matter is it’s a lot easier to ban dogs than it is to ban chavs. These are 100% chav dogs through and through and I would welcome an immediate cull.

The government haven’t tackled the chav problem head on but this would appear to be low hanging fruit that they can do so at least it’s something.

Now where’s that Dalek….

 

[Efour]

Dogs of peace, that wouldn't harm a fly to be sensibly banned.

1st clever thing Tories have done in 10 years I imagine?

Peacefully shredding peoples arms and legs.

So sad people get blinded by emotions and think letting fighting dogs loose on the streets is fine.

 

[Efour]

Just out of interest, why would someone want an XL bully?

Bite children's arms off.

 

[C Kent]

Just out of interest, why would someone want an XL bully?

Status symbol I'd presume, side note i did notice an increase in social media in the past year push how 'docile' and 'gentle' the likes of bully's and pitbulls are. Maybe that's had an impact in the ownership of them.

 

[jigger]

Dogs of peace, that wouldn't harm a fly to be sensibly banned.

1st clever thing Tories have done in 10 years I imagine?

Peacefully shredding peoples arms and legs.

So sad people get blinded by emotions and think letting fighting dogs loose on the streets is fine.

The government haven’t done anything yet and what action is taken will be questionable. I don’t recall much government appetite for action, until an attack was filmed and put on social media.

 

[Efour]

The government haven’t done anything yet and what action is taken will be questionable. I don’t recall much government appetite for action, until an attack was filmed and put on social media.

Cool it usually only takes 1 highly publicised event to turn the tide and stir up public outrage on common sense issues especially when dealing with kids, families and being ripped up by feral animals.
I guess time will tell.

 

[jigger]

Cool it usually only takes 1 highly publicised event to turn the tide and stir up public outrage.
I guess time will tell.

Probably half baked and legally challenged legislation. Minimal effort, let’s seem to be doing something.

 

[robfosters]

The statistic for death by dog in 2016 (as an example) would disagree with you as over 5 children and adults were killed by them and more in years since...

Staffies? Where are you reading that?

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

broken record time,

problem is the owners not the dogs.

any dog has the inherit ability to be a danger, and that scales up exponentially depending on the size of the breed. a labrador is just as capable of killing as a xl bully but you dont see people buying labradors as status symbols and and to use as weapons.
all that a ban on xl bullies is going to do is push ownership and breeding underground or worse cause the idiots to look for the next big thing thats even more capable of inflicting damage. whats the betting within 2 years of a ban on XL bullies we start seeing a trend for hybrid mastiffs or Kangals

I've been a volunteer with a bulldog rescue for many many years (english and french) a staffie owner and come from a family of dog owners and breeders. Mum and dad bred Deerhounds/Rotties Gran and Aunty both bred/breed Rotties i've been brought up with supposed devil dogs my entire life my first dog of my own was a Japanese Akita which i would say is a far more potentially dangerous breed than a xl bully and there was a while back a thing for the "chavscum" owners to own akitas before XL bullies became the must have fashion accesory. its always been the same idiots flock to a certain breed it becomes demonised, idiots move onto something bigger and better in their eyes GSDs Dobermans Rotties Akitas Staffies have all had a turn as the flavour of the month and this is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction from the government that will solve nothing but move the problem onto another breed.

the government needs to tighten up dog ownership. bring back dog licencing, with a mandatory training program attached to that, classify breeds the same way they do with firearms, if you want a Daschhound you have to do a level one program in dog ownership if you want to own a more "substantial breed" that has the potential to pose a bigger risk then you have to do an appropriate training couse. All dogs chipped, licence no attached to the chip and any dogs transferred to a new owner to be logged on a centralised database same as with firearms perhaps even home inspections before your allowed to own a dog. and regular checkups should any reports of anything be made, mistreatment , behavioural incedents etc etc.

as a dog owner i would have no problem taking steps like the above if it weeded out the idiots that should not be allowed with 100 yards of a dog and i'm sure most responsible dog owners would feel exactly the same.


bit of a ramble but you get the picture. responsible dog owners and breeders should not be demonised for a minority of idiots that shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a dog

60-70% of XL Bully's are descended from parents who attacked and killed humans. They're literally bred for human aggression, alongside being one of the elite fighting dogs with the strongest bite. It's not as simple as pointing a finger at the ownership when a dog breed is bred to be high in human and animal aggression. You can't say the same for other breeds.

 

[robfosters]

So they definitely wont be culled, but living dogs will need to be registered

 

[jigger]

60-70% of XL Bully's are descended from parents who attacked and killed humans. They're literally bred for human aggression, alongside being one of the elite fighting dogs with the strongest bite. It's not as simple as pointing a finger at the ownership when a dog breed is bred to be high in human and animal aggression. You can't say the same for other breeds.

Yeah, the odds of an attack are far too high and the outcomes far too serious. For a breed that makes up such a small percentage of types it’s clearly an issue that will only get worse.

I’m slightly concerned people we might see a boom in numbers as breeder look to cash out and people get in before the ban.

Finger crossed the ban at least includes all types of Bully dogs.

 

[Efour]

It's very reassuring when you're watching your adult son being eaten alive that those dogs are microchipped.

 

[glenimp617]

Now the internet knows I've shown an interest in XL bullies, I'm seeing a lot of social media posts / news sites showing up in my feeds.
It's amazing how many videos from reputable breeders and trainers are absolute shocking at the advice they are giving out.

There's one bloke who runs some kind of XL bully site saying they don't need to be kept on a lead. I was watching one video of him walking his dog around a kids playground without the lead on.
The second one I saw was of an XL licking a baby, then it cuts to him on a gold chain snarling and going berserk at the camera, with some rap song in the background saying "cross me and see what you get".

If that's the advice given by owners, trainers and breeders good lord

In fact, reading the comments it seems EVERY owner of this breed has bought one for protection, and the heavier the dog the better.

This wasn't the one, but he seems like an idiot as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJzt7Q6uVc

Spoiler: music contains swearing

Beautiful STACKED Merle XL American Bully - Protective, Loyal & Loving!

Want your bully to be stacked!? Check this out... 15lb Bully Muscle Building Stack - https://amzn.to/3LahPH4 American Bully Muscle Building Chews: https...

www.youtube.com

 

[jigger]

It's very reassuring when you're watching your adult son being eaten alive that those dogs are microchipped.

Take comfort knowing your loved ones died at the jaws of a legally owned out of control animal bred to savage people to death. It could be worse, the owner could have been irresponsible.

 

[jigger]

Now the internet knows I've shown an interest in XL bullies, I'm seeing a lot of social media posts / news sites showing up in my feeds.
It's amazing how many videos from reputable breeders and trainers are absolute shocking at the advice they are giving out.

There's one bloke who runs some kind of XL bully site saying they don't need to be kept on a lead. I was watching one video of him walking his dog around a kids playground without the lead on.
The second one I saw was of an XL licking a baby, then it cuts to him on a gold chain snarling and going berserk at the camera, with some rap song in the background saying "cross me and see what you get".

If that's the advice given by owners, trainers and breeders good lord

In fact, reading the comments it seems EVERY owner of this breed has bought one for protection, and the heavier the dog the better.

This wasn't the one, but he seems like an idiot as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJzt7Q6uVc

Spoiler: music contains swearing

Beautiful STACKED Merle XL American Bully - Protective, Loyal & Loving!

Want your bully to be stacked!? Check this out... 15lb Bully Muscle Building Stack - https://amzn.to/3LahPH4 American Bully Muscle Building Chews: https...

www.youtube.com

That chap likely has less processing power than the electronic lead he’s trying to peddle.

 

[Sankari]

 

[gingergundog]

Coconuts kill more people

 

[glenimp617]

I've not done a lot of research into these dogs, but it would seem they are quite sensitive and get bored easily.

Considering they are expensive to buy, expensive to feed, with high insurance premiums, owners need to be quite well off, but without a full time job so they aren't left alone for hours.

How many people (other than drug dealers) have lots of money without full time work The only thing I can think of is that someone is a high earner, so their partner doesn't need to work? or someone retired with a good pension

 

[beachBOYken]

So they definitely wont be culled, but living dogs will need to be registered

Muzzled in public and will need to be neutered and insured.

 

[beachBOYken]

60-70% of XL Bully's are descended from parents who attacked and killed humans. They're literally bred for human aggression, alongside being one of the elite fighting dogs with the strongest bite. It's not as simple as pointing a finger at the ownership when a dog breed is bred to be high in human and animal aggression. You can't say the same for other breeds.

Yeah it's baffling some people can't seem to grasp that. Yeah all dogs are capable to some degree but certain breeds have an aggressive nature.