Does something need to be done about dogs?
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I presented evidence for my claim... let's see your evidence.
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That isn't fatal crashes though, is it?
If comparatively few prius crashes result in injury, that would indicate they are safe. The number of crashes is a bit of a red herring there.
I've looked for fatalities by car type and, no surprise, can't find that! My money is on a Type R or similar boy racer car....
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It would probably be something like a corsa, because they appeal to younger people (who are inherently risky drivers) and are cheap, but mostly because there are so many of them on the road.
It's an interesting analogy, as in terms of dogs in the Uk (or the USA if we refer to the graph) 'pit bills' make up a tiny minority of the dog population, yet are resposible for a disproportionately huge amount of human deaths.
If we take that anaology to cars...that would be like Ferrari Dino's being involved in over 30% of all fatal road traffic accidents.
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Prius are used by the majority of taxi drivers, they are on the road for 10 hours a day, sooner or later they will have an accident.
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It'd be pretty meaningless without some comparator graphs charting other factors, such as rates of abuse/neglect, breeder reputation, owner's social standing and criminal leanings.
You have nothing in evidence of your claim about these being indicative, hence your subsequent reconsideration and addition of quantifiers.
So either your evidence supports your claim, and thus my own too, or it doesn't.
No, it's pretty hard to find UK stats on fatalities by brand or model. We had a whole thread on it a few years ago, and you need some jiggery-pokery on Excel with the government stats just to get a limited list of models.
IIRC, BMW SUVs didn't look especially good.
However, this was the closest I could find, and the comparator was the number of accidents per 10k vehicles, to give a degree of normalisation.
That would suggest that either the car model itself is faulty, or it's being mis-handled by the majority of drivers.
XLBs are (presumably
) used by the majority of status dog owners. Sooner or later they will react to this abuse.
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I'd highly recommend a ball thrower and a couple of squeeky balls. Take it on a playing field and you'll be able to tire it out throwing balls in 10-15 minutes
Congrats on your new Spaniel, is it Springer, Cocker or Sprocker? If it's bred from working stock it will be easier to train than show dog stock. Mine's from show dog stock and loves running into trees and barking in them despite there been nothing in most of the trees. I think this is because the dog is bred for flushing birds from trees on shoots.
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hes a sprocker, nothing tires him out, he even tried to chase a helicopter when he was younger, hes loving and great in the house, outside thats another matter
How does it support your claim?
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How does it support yours?
Went for my lunchtime walk today.. Man coming down path with a dog on a harness. Big fella, but he's having to hold the two straps with both hands.. I just knew it was looking at me with intent.. I tried to walk past with as much distance as possible and it went for me, barking and snapping. Fella had to pull it aside pretty fast.
Pee'd me off tbh.. if I was with my little kid, she would've had kittens. Dogs that like should be muzzled.
Pee'd me off tbh.. if I was with my little kid, she would've had kittens. Dogs that like should be muzzled.
The back and forth between those two over the last few months must be a psychologist's dream.
Oh agreed and I was a part of it last year. The context has been completely lost now that they are arguing over statistics shared by one, neither or both, but not that statistic, this graph that shows X, but no not that graph, this graph....
Think its run its course a bit now.
Certain breed has been banned, now its just arguing for e-points of not being incorrect on the internet, least that's how it comes across.
To argue against adding this dog to the dangerous dogs list is beyond naïve and shows a lack of respect for human lives.
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No, just muttered something to the dog.
Why would you even want such a dog? Surely it's a massive stress if it ever got out ? Or is it because of the rate of burglaries these days?
It shows exactly what I claimed re: deaths from pitbull attacks.
Where does it show this apparently higher rate of injuries from mongrels? Answer; it doens't, that's just some claim you pulled out of your ass as several replies later you still have nothing to show for it and keep on deflecting.
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Are dogs invulnerable to pepper spray now? Or are they just going to start off mauling immediately without barking first if they think people are 'carrying'? Perhaps they'll steal the pepper spray off the humans and use it to incapacitate them before mauling them anyway.
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Learn to control your index finger...?
As in, don't click on it.
That's how every Dowie post comes across, really. This thread is the most incorrect he's ever seemed, though, given how many arguments and elements he suddenly 'forgets' about.
Suppose I should be happy he's no longer trying to ignorantly bang on about heritability, at least....
When humans are the controlling factor in what makes it dangerous to begin with, ignoring any understanding of this is just making the problem worse.
Why drag everything down to the lowest common denominator, instead of pushing people to higher standards?
Which is what I already said beforehand, although we know you didn't read that part before you smashed the Reply button...
However, you are ignoring the repeated reminder that you then said this was indicative of serious injury too, without any evidence for such.
It was already established earlier in the thread that you think Pit Bull types are a riskier breed because they are more likely to kill, rather than seriously injure like most other heavily represented breeds.
Are you now going back on that assertion as well?