Again. You haven't got your facts straight. You are spouting falsehoods. That's nothing to do with me. It's on you.
Does something need to be done about dogs?
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Again. You haven't got your facts straight. You are spouting falsehoods. That's nothing to do with me. It's on you.
You’re wasting your own time arguing with people on here, best just to ignore them.
Here we go with another straw man, I don't think that. What is the point in throwing in straw man arguments when you could just read what I've actually written and refer to that:
Even when he reads what's written he still spouts rubbish.
100% 1v1 shipment
I think this is the issue, sidimmu has a naive monocausal view so assumes others arguing with him do too. It's just binary thinking - oh you've argued against my positon that it's 100% X so you must believe it's 100% not X. No room for nuance.
In reality though, even good owners of well-trained dogs will still use dog leads, dogs are reactive and not always 100% under the owner's control, they can run off or act on instinct, they can exhibit pack behaviour, they can snap when threatened or hurt... some breeds will often unsuitable for say people who own cats as they have a strong prey drive, being a good owner doesn't necessarily change that.
That bad owners exist doesn't negate that dog breeds differ and that some are far riskier to humans than others. Owners who are in denial that their dogs can be a danger are posing a risk too.
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There is also a line to be drawn, though - Plenty of other things kill or seriously injure a lot of people, often despite training and licencing requirements... so is the only way to protect people a blanket ban on such things?
Or should we instead be working to raise the level of those lowest common denominators?
Another kid was mauled, by a pack of dogs, in her own garden... apparently, the neighbour was a breeder... imagine my surprise to see:
www.express.co.uk
Not the nanny dogs/dogs of peace again??? How can this be???
'Owner' of dogs that mauled girl in street kept 14 animals - claim
Neighbours said the girl, believed to be around five or six-years-old, was playing in the street when she was set upon by a pack of ‘American Bully' or 'pitbull' type dogs.
www.express.co.uk
Not the nanny dogs/dogs of peace again??? How can this be???
Another kid was mauled, by a pack of dogs, in her own garden... apparently, the neighbour was a breeder... imagine my surprise to see:
'Owner' of dogs that mauled girl in street kept 14 animals - claim
Neighbours said the girl, believed to be around five or six-years-old, was playing in the street when she was set upon by a pack of ‘American Bully' or 'pitbull' type dogs.
Not the nanny dogs/dogs of peace again??? How can this be???
I hope the little girl survives and mends well. As for the dogs and their ilk, the complete polar opposite.
What we see and hear on the news is just the tip of a really big iceberg.
A Freedom of Information request to NHS England today revealed that hospitals in England are treating three children under the age of 16 every day for serious injuries caused by dog attacks. The figures revealed that in the last eight month period there were:
- 255 procedures carried out on the 0-5 age group
- 246 on children aged 5-9
- 186 procedures on 10-14 year olds.
Source.
So yes, something really has to be done about dogs and soon. I just hope it's done before your child or one you know is killed or seriously injured.
I posted numbers earlier in the thread and it was amazing that those doubting the figures ran away with no response.
A common trait on these forums.
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The Wikipedia article on fatal UK dog attacks makes pretty clear which breeds are most risky.
Worth a look if you haven't already seen it.
Haven't run away, got bored of the nonsense and pure dog hate.
Regardless of your stats and numbers etc etc, it's the same with humans, put the effort in to bring them up right and 99% will be decent people, you get some bad eggs.
But if you guys want to talk pure American bully XL breeds only, I could agree that we should.not be splicing their genes constantly to create such a dog.
You can leave the majority of bull terriers alone though.
Got to ask, where is your hatred for German shepherds and rottweilers etc?
Imagine my ******* surprise when it wasn't the usual suspect of the Golden Retriever!
The American bully is the new chav dog of choice. Side note though, I see more dogs of various breeds of which the owners have no control over and they think its alright to let them run over to my dogs and it is definitely worse post Covid.
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More details on that recent attack:
www.dailymail.co.uk
So there was another incident last year involving an attack and yet this guy still owned dangerous pitbull-type dogs leading to the attack on the young girl.
Dog owner charged after girl, six, mauled by 'pack of XL Bullys'
The six-year-old child was rushed to hospital with injuries after she was attacked, reportedly by a pack of XL Bully dogs, on Ackers Lane in Carrington, Greater Manchester on Sunday.
So there was another incident last year involving an attack and yet this guy still owned dangerous pitbull-type dogs leading to the attack on the young girl.
I do wish people with nasty little terrier dogs wouldnt let them walk around off the lead. One of my neighbour's dogs always snaps at mine for no reason whatsoever, and he or I often can't avoid it as i keep him on the lead and theirs is just let loose.
If it keeps happening i might just kick the stupid thing.
If your dog isn't friendly with other people and/or other dogs, don't let it off the lead around other people and other dogs.
If it keeps happening i might just kick the stupid thing.
If your dog isn't friendly with other people and/or other dogs, don't let it off the lead around other people and other dogs.
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More details on that recent attack:
Dog owner charged after girl, six, mauled by 'pack of XL Bullys'
The six-year-old child was rushed to hospital with injuries after she was attacked, reportedly by a pack of XL Bully dogs, on Ackers Lane in Carrington, Greater Manchester on Sunday.
So there was another incident last year involving an attack and yet this guy still owned dangerous pitbull-type dogs leading to the attack on the young girl.
Lol, Mr Valentine is a rather naughty boy, if you google him.