Luckily it is mainly chavs and their children that get killed by these animals. So why should we worry.
Does something need to be done about dogs?
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Luckily it is mainly chavs and their children that get killed by these animals. So why should we worry.
Exactly focus on yourself and what you can control.
I really hope there's some missing sarcasm tags to that post, else wtf???
You are right but those who realise this may be a minority.
Leaving a killer dog at home playing with your kids tends to be a certain demographic though.
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Looking at these stories, a "killer dog" seems to be about anything though, and I shouldn't think there's a single dog owner who hasn't left a child alone with their dog for a moment.
www.latimes.com
A Pomeranian ffs
Oh, and the lovely Golden Retriever/Lab cross tearing off a child's legs..!
I appreciate we are talking about scale of attacks when it comes to the larger more dangerous breeds, but no animal is entirely safe.
Hell, there's a story here of a cat sitting on a toddler and smothering it to death.
www.ranker.com
And death by snakes, rats, horse, bengal tiger (well, no surprise on that last one!)
Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog
A 6-week-old girl died Saturday night after she was mauled by the family's dog, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
www.latimes.com
A Pomeranian ffs
Oh, and the lovely Golden Retriever/Lab cross tearing off a child's legs..!
I appreciate we are talking about scale of attacks when it comes to the larger more dangerous breeds, but no animal is entirely safe.
Hell, there's a story here of a cat sitting on a toddler and smothering it to death.
Children Who Were Killed by Family Pets
Family pets can become an integral part of the household, often developing an unbreakable bond on par with the relationship between parent and child. But sometimes a family pet can be unpredictable. They can turn on their owner in an instant, without warning. And sometimes, a child is on the...
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And death by snakes, rats, horse, bengal tiger (well, no surprise on that last one!)
Comparing drugs and controlled substances to dangerous dogs, is like comparing apples and oranges, both problems are completely different and are incomparable for any practical or useful purpose.
Out of the last sixteen fatal dog attacks since November 2021 (the first recorded fatality by a Bully XL) ten of the attacks have involved a bully XL. This year alone - out of the four fatal attacks so far - three have involved a bully XL.
When it comes to legislation, I think we need to first outlaw the bully XL breed - make it illegal to physically breed these dogs, skew the punishment towards the breeders - hit them hard and where it hurts. Let existing owners keep their dogs until they die, but they must be neutered, the breed itself is so egregious and pointless- it just shouldn't exist.
Secondly, I think we need to have tougher restrictions on breeding dogs, specifically - make it illegal to create monstrosities which have no real benefit or reason to exist. For example - make it illegal to crossbreed dogs to create random breeds. If you're going to breed dogs, you need a license and it has to be a sanctioned or established breed which has pedigree, the Bully XL isn't recognised by any official kennel club, or breed registry for a start.
I'd also bring back dog licensing, you don't have a license - you get a hefty fine.
Obviously the caveat, is that all of this has to be enforced, and I just have nfi how we do that, but I don't think that means we should just not do anything..
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Looking at these stories, a "killer dog" seems to be about anything though, and I shouldn't think there's a single dog owner who hasn't left a child alone with their dog for a moment.
Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog
A 6-week-old girl died Saturday night after she was mauled by the family's dog, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
A Pomeranian ffs
Oh, and the lovely Golden Retriever/Lab cross tearing off a child's legs..!
I appreciate we are talking about scale of attacks when it comes to the larger more dangerous breeds, but no animal is entirely safe.
Hell, there's a story here of a cat sitting on a toddler and smothering it to death.
Children Who Were Killed by Family Pets
Family pets can become an integral part of the household, often developing an unbreakable bond on par with the relationship between parent and child. But sometimes a family pet can be unpredictable. They can turn on their owner in an instant, without warning. And sometimes, a child is on the...
And death by snakes, rats, horse, bengal tiger (well, no surprise on that last one!)
Difference is you could likely stop a lab or something if you were supervising.
One of these huge dogs? Not a chance.
That's the point that a lot of the monocausal "always the owner's fault" seem to miss, any dog can potentially attack, they're tame pets the vast majority of the time but even the friendliest of dogs could lash out an nip someone, some have a strong prey drive, sometimes dogs get nervous or are in pain etc.. no dog is completely 100% guaranteed to never bite.
The problem with bull terrier/pitbull types is how devastating things can get if they do become violent... they're a big outlier when it comes to deaths and in turn that implies similar w.r.t serious injuries.
Why?
Most pedigree breeds have a long lineage and are a known quantity give or take…
When you start crossing dog breeds without any sorts of controls, you end up precisely with things like Bully XLs, etc.
Of course there are extreme cases with pedigree show dogs like bulldogs, where breeding for a specific trait causes the dogs terrible suffering, but that’s a different problem entirely.
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Actually it's the opposite - Every owner should know that any dog has the potential to lash out. It is always the owners responsibility to recognise potential problems, take all reasonable measures and ensure the dog is kept from causing harm.
As already established earlier in this thread, the owner is held legally responsible for whatever their dog does. This is why it really is 'always the owners' fault'.
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Yes... legally they're always responsible but you're kinda missing the point in that they're not omnipotent, they're not going to be 100% perfect all of the time, for example:
And some dogs pose a greater risk than others... given that any dog can lash out it's sensible to remove the obvious outlier type.
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You don't have to be omnipotent. It doesn't take a genius or a Mexican reality TV star to learn the basics of dog behaviour and understand the situations that are likely to present a problem. There are more than enough books and YouTube videos on the subject...!!
As for Freakbro's example - I am one such owner who has never left a dog alone with a child, because I'm not stupid and because I know all too well what happened to the retards who did.
As already pointed out previously - No dog is more risky than another. Either you know it well enough to be safe, or you don't.
That's just false some dogs are clearly riskier also a dog could snap even if the owner is present, being a good owner doesn't give you psychic abilities.
Leaving any animal unattended with a young child is really stupid, child can cry upsetting animal, child can smack or harm animal causing retaliation. Not for one minute. Pet should be in a secure place or in a different room if not supervised.
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No dog will ever "just snap". If that happens to you, it means you missed something or weren't paying attention.
Yes, children always have psychic abilities with respect to dogs and clearly weren't paying attention if a dog snaps.
Yeah have to disagree with this. Some dogs are more risky than others.
Absolutely... Some dogs are bread as intimidating attack dog status symbols. They are purposely bread for fighting and aggressive traits are bread into them rather than out of them.
It's basically all the pit bull types. And they are generaly owned and bread by low lifes.
It's not to say that a staffie can't be a good pet for an experienced dog owner as long as it's kept under strict control and trained well.
What we are talking about here are aggressive breeds that require a lot of stimulation, coupled with lazy or otherwise incapable owners.
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