So maybe not the type to look after a dog then.
Does something need to be done about dogs?
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1. The type that can look after a dog
2. The type that can look after a dog bread to be dangerous
These folks don't pass '1', let alone '2'.
Guess this hasn't been posted yet sooo....
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XL Bully campaigner is left bloodied and bruised after being mauled
An XL Bully 'campaigner' who stood up for them and urged people to stop 'blaming the wrong end of the leash' has been mauled by one of the dogs after its owner set it on him
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Even though I support the ban and think it makes sense, based on evidence - I think the government have made a stupid avoidable mistake here.
They’ve said they’re going to outlaw and then ban the breed, but they haven’t given any indication about what will happen both in the meantime and after the ban has come into effect.
So now, some XLbully owners are abandoning their dogs, trying to sell them off or trying to get vets to identify them as a different breed.
It’s stupid, because the government could have been quite clear with the plan, and not caused existing owners to panic or make rash decisions.
They’ve said they’re going to outlaw and then ban the breed, but they haven’t given any indication about what will happen both in the meantime and after the ban has come into effect.
So now, some XLbully owners are abandoning their dogs, trying to sell them off or trying to get vets to identify them as a different breed.
It’s stupid, because the government could have been quite clear with the plan, and not caused existing owners to panic or make rash decisions.
Because they're the human equivalent of the dogs, and when people like that own dogs like that, it can only lead to trouble.
Now that's commitment to the bit.
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That has always been a problem since they started breeding terriers with bigger more powerful breeds, you end up with something much bigger and stronger - but with an insanely strong prey drive. Most of the bigger breeds are more docile and don't possess that sort of drive to chase, they're more likely to stay and guard their owner - then go galloping after something hundreds of yards away to destroy it.
It always seemed to be a bad idea to me, and seeing that kitesurfer getting attacked like that brings it home. If we saw Labradors, Huskies and St Bernards chasing people down for 100-200 yards and mauling them to death, you could argue "AlL DoGs CaN Be AgGrEsSiVe" but it very rare for those those breeds, it's almost always these bully/terrier/fighting breeds.
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Well yes... It's a bit like cats. We love them and they are cute etc. But only because they are so small.
If you super size them up to say a cougar or a leopard or something... With the same mentality as your average moggy, It's not so cute any more, and not a good pet!
If you super size them up to say a cougar or a leopard or something... With the same mentality as your average moggy, It's not so cute any more, and not a good pet!
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Exactly, even something as small and relatively "harmless" as a serval still requires a dangerous animal licence, but our greyhound is bigger, heavier, almost certainly stronger, and could probably do more damage if she wanted to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, my Jack cross is always on the lead because of his prey drive, if he spots a squirrel he's gone, despite attempted training (with multiple trainers) when he was younger. Excellent recall, he knows a silly number of commands and tricks, but he see's that rodent and everything goes out the window when he's not on a lead. He doesn't do it with anything larger than rabbits or cats, though saying that when he meets a hedgehog in the back garden he just barks at it so I'm not sure the instinct to kill is there by itself, even if he will happily rag his toys all day. He would have made an excellent ratter in another life
. I can't imagine dealing with that in a much more powerful dog that thinks anything is fair game.
He's 12 and still does it.
The dog running out to the surfer reminds me of this old gem.
And Greyhounds really do have that chase / prey instinct! They're much more timid in general though, very gentrified
.And Greyhounds really do have that chase / prey instinct! They're much more timid in general though, very gentrified
Ours is very timid - I think she would be too scared to actually chase anything, although we're very careful with her around the cats. She's also extremely lazy which helps
I never thought of that analogy before, but that's a great one.
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"can you physically restrain your dog no matter how enraged it gets"
This would be easy for anyone with a daschund (for example)
A rotty? Probably a lot less.
XL? Very few
Obviously it makes it much harder if you assessed it on the dog going for its owner. Because even a rotty would probably be no fit almost everyone.
In an ideal world it would simply be a worst case of
"can you physically restrain your dog no matter how enraged it gets"
This would be easy for anyone with a daschund (for example)
A rotty? Probably a lot less.
XL? Very few
Obviously it makes it much harder if you assessed it on the dog going for its owner. Because even a rotty would probably be no fit almost everyone.
It’s worse in Australia. You have to keep an eye out for sharks, crocodiles and pitt bulls.
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Servals are not harmless they have a high prey drive large amounts of energy and do not tame at all they make terrible pets they're much happier/safer with their own kind and in a zoo. People equate domestic cats with wildcats and even large cats but they're not the same at all and its not just a scale thing they have a difference in energy levels and temperament these differences are genetic and are attributed to changes in genes that affect behaviour
Its such a problem that bengal cats are F4 hybrids that is they are four generations down from the initial domestic/asian leopard cat cross and even then they have high energy levels and will patrol and try to dominate/take over the house and thats considered the minimum safe option for a domestic setting all previous generations are too wild/dangerous and have to be caged basically
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Hence the heavy emphasis on the word "relatively" and the quotation marks around "harmless". Compared to a tiger or leopard they are "harmless", obviously when compared to your average ginger tom, they're still killing machines, but that's the point - the same equivalence is true of different dog breeds.
My Mums wild Spanish dog (Mainly Jack Russell crossed with Chihuahua ) was crazy with Squirrels which aren't really something he'd ever have come across in Southern Spain (Yes, I know red squirrels are technically found in southern spain, right on the coast with minimal trees, they are a very rare sight!) but the moment he laid eyes on them in the UK he went mad.. Hilarious! until that rubbed off on our Spaniel!Yeah, my Jack cross is always on the lead because of his prey drive, if he spots a squirrel he's gone, despite attempted training (with multiple trainers) when he was younger. Excellent recall, he knows a silly number of commands and tricks, but he see's that rodent and everything goes out the window when he's not on a lead. He doesn't do it with anything larger than rabbits or cats, though saying that when he meets a hedgehog in the back garden he just barks at it so I'm not sure the instinct to kill is there by itself, even if he will happily rag his toys all day. He would have made an excellent ratter in another life
I can't imagine dealing with that in a much more powerful dog that thinks anything is fair game.
He's 12 and still does it.
I didn't get the impression he would rip one to shreds though, more a stupidly high state of anxiety as if trying to alert you to a really dangerous animal.. mind you, the Mrs nearly got knocked out when a squirrel jumped over her head, landed on a rotten branch of a tree that then fell 4M on to her head.. it was enough to knock her over in to the shrubbery and was momentarily confused.. so maybe the dogs are on to something.. killer squizzers..
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