Does your pet like strange food?

Energize said:
The sheer amount of ignorance that pet owners in this thread have is concerning, can't believe people are feeding their dogs toxic things like grapes, raisins and chocolate. :(
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I think a lot of it comes down to not knowing, who could guess that grapes are toxic, as I have said the actual amounts known to be toxic are a grey area but some things should be avoided if possible.

However a lot of it comes down to hear say, for instance garlic, in large amounts it will make a dog vomit and people say it causes problems with the liver, while others give their dogs garlic as part of a natrual flea/tick repelant (I do this) which has shown no ill effect on Max as he now likes the garlic and I can feed him 1 clove once or twice a week.

I know other people who say you shouldn't feed dogs red meat raw with blood on it as it will cause them to be agressive which is utter pap.

However people who feed their dogs lots of chocolate is just stupid :)

KaHn
 
As I said my dog loves chocolate, not that I intentionally feed him it. But if you drop any or are not paying attention he will have it away and will not give it back. Normally he is very obedient, but seems to get selective hearing once chocolate is involved, and "leave" is ignored.
 
KaHn said:
I think a lot of it comes down to not knowing, who could guess that grapes are toxic, as I have said the actual amounts known to be toxic are a grey area but some things should be avoided if possible.
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Not knowing is what ignorance is! If your going to get a pet it's your responsibility to research these things, I would never own an animal without properly researching diet, animal behaviour and medical conditions etc. Reading this thread makes me understand why many people want pet licenses brought back.
 
My cat gets fed up to 5 times a day, has about 2 bites of food and buggers off, he won't touch old food. He sometimes eats tuna. Will usually eat ham, chicken, beef etc. Prefers water to cat milk, and even double cream.
He's the fussiest cat in the world. And he refuses to be stroked or basically be in the same room as you willingly.

I think he's clever though, he's 9 and still regularly brings in mice, birds (sometimes big birds, he once had a crow), sometimes multiples a night in the summer.
Probably down to the fact he weighs about as much as a cadburys cream egg because he eats nothing.
 
KaHn said:
I think a lot of it comes down to not knowing, who could guess that grapes are toxic, as I have said the actual amounts known to be toxic are a grey area but some things should be avoided if possible.
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If you know that they can't have raisins, then you should know they can't have grapes ;).

I agree with Energize on this one, my pets don't get anything "weird" because weird things generally aren't good for them. If I don't know if something is ok, I'll either not give them it, or look for an answer from a reputable source.
 
Vixen said:
If you know that they can't have raisins, then you should know they can't have grapes ;).

I agree with Energize on this one, my pets don't get anything "weird" because weird things generally aren't good for them. If I don't know if something is ok, I'll either not give them it, or look for an answer from a reputable source.
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Things that aren't good for them after a certain amount shouldn't simply be banned altogether.

For example, I own 2 chinchillas and it is well known that raisins are a treat they go bananas over (and they do). However, too many raisins is extremely bad for them.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't have them, though.

As with people, everything in moderation. Your dog nicking a Cadbury's Rose from you isn't reason to give yourself 50 lashes, for Christ's sake. Not that I'm equating that to the Chinchillas/raisins point - dogs shouldn't intentionally have chocolate. Ever.
 
Pestilence said:
As with people, everything in moderation. Your dog nicking a Cadbury's Rose from you isn't reason to give yourself 50 lashes, for Christ's sake. Not that I'm equating that to the Chinchillas/raisins point - dogs shouldn't intentionally have chocolate. Ever.
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Raisins are actually much more toxic than chocolate, with an estimated LD50 of 11g/kg, with doses much lower than that causing symptoms and then of course there's individual susceptibility.

It's all about risk, personally I wouldn't risk my pets death by feeding them foods like raisins, non-white chocolate and coffee. We're not talking about alcohol or fatty foods where moderation is fine, when it comes to foods like raisins we're talking about a high poisoning risk. That's even only looking at the acute effects, who knows what the accumulative effects of these poisons are.
 
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Energize said:
Raisins are actually much more toxic than chocolate, with an estimated LD50 of 11g/kg, with doses much lower than that causing symptoms and then of course there's individual susceptibility.

It's all about risk, personally I wouldn't risk my pets death by feeding them foods like raisins, non-white chocolate and coffee. We're not talking about alcohol or fatty foods where moderation is fine, when it comes to foods like raisins we're talking about a high poisoning risk. That's even only looking at the acute effects, who knows what the accumulative effects of these poisons are.
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With that, and I'm not trying to jump down your throat, you've completely ignored what I've said and equated it directly to dogs.

Too many raisins, in a dog, will cause renal failure. Basically, do not give your dog raisins.

Chinchillas, however, which is what I specifically put the raisin argument towards, get no more than bad diarrhoea (which can be horrible enough in itself) if given too many raisins. However, most chinchillas will get along just fine with a daily raisin treat.
 
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