Dog issue (Staffie)

rebel rebel · 9 Apr 2012 at 18:36

Funnily enough, my friend his wife and the kids just came round to see the dog as they were passing.

I kept him on the lead for the first 10 mins to let him calm down a bit, like most dogs he gets really excited when someone knocks on the door.

I gave the eldest daughter a chew to give him, and after he ate that he let them both stroke him and pat him on the head. He loved the attention.

He knew he had to behave and he did, but after about 20 mins of them playing with him I could tell he was getting a bit too excited and trying to jump up, so I put him in the bedroom. He was fine with the eldest (7) but a bit wary of the smaller (3).

I have to say though, even though I do trust the dog theres no way I could have let him off the lead whilst the 3 year old was here.

MumboJumbo · 9 Apr 2012 at 19:08

Quite frankly, if you have a dog that would ever maul a child you don't know how to raise a dog.

Like above, you let the dog meet them, you calm him down and they tend to just find a corner and sit down. If it's a young dog and very playful you obviously aren't going to let them off the lead around little children because in all likely hood it's probably going to try and jump on a kid, but that is just common sense right?

To be honest, there are very few bad dogs and instead just bad owners.

robfosters · 9 Apr 2012 at 19:30

I personally have never come across a vicious staffie, including one I owned until he died.

My brother was born when the dog was 9. My brother would be in his rocker in the frontroom and Buster would go in and sit right next to him, protecting him. Wouldn't move until my mum moved my brother. So I have had nothing but good experiences with them so I am biased.

If i'm honest, there's actually more danger of a small child being injured by a staff through it's natural over exuberance and boisterousness. No meanness at all, it's just that they are so over friendly, that they can jump up at children and knock them flying as they are very powerful.

One that's been round children all it's life, really should be fine though.

pegare · 9 Apr 2012 at 19:45

HAz said:
Why do all chav, work dodging scum have them then? seems the norm for around here anyway.

i always wondered the same

every chavvy looking guy or dodgy looking person i see with a dog always has a staff. i have nothing against the breed, but just always wondered why they were so popular with less than reputable characters. its that that gives the dogs a bad image.

OT: as with any dog breed with kids i would watch them closely, if it hasn't been around kids before and your child hasnt been around dogs before i would be watch them closely (this goes for any breed). kids like to play rough with things, sometimes they scare / annoy the dog and they snap. my friend had a big great dane dog and a young sister, and they played great together, and becuase they had both grown up together the dog was use to the child playing rough with him and never snapped or hurt the child.

Kamwah · 9 Apr 2012 at 21:34

Your house, your rules. Mtfu and do what you feels right.

atpbx · 9 Apr 2012 at 21:41

I'm afraid this would be a non starter for me.

I wouldn't let that ******* animal get within 50ft of my children.

It just isn't worth the risk.

Em3bbs · 9 Apr 2012 at 21:57

MumboJumbo said:
Quite frankly, if you have a dog that would ever maul a child you don't know how to raise a dog.

If anything, it's this kind of attitude that worries me. You're the type of dog owner that is quoted in the paper saying "He never did anything like this before.".

You're dealing with an animal, not a small human.

bitslice · 9 Apr 2012 at 22:05

^^
+1

Just a thought, get a muzzle for when it's around your children, the most it can do then is knock them over.

dowie · 9 Apr 2012 at 22:15

Kamwah said:
Your house, your rules. Mtfu and do what you feels right.

this...

ignore the 'but staffies are lovely/its bad owners' brigade - any dog can be unpredictable with kids its not met before - your house, your kids - stick the dog in the garden.

pegare · 9 Apr 2012 at 22:52

dowie said:
this...

ignore the 'but staffies are lovely/its bad owners' brigade - any dog can be unpredictable with kids its not met before - your house, your kids - stick the dog in the garden.

this is true, you cant blame it on the breed, any dog can be unpredictable, and if it hasnt been around young kids much it might play a bit rough,.

bledd · 9 Apr 2012 at 23:03

Tell your kids not to bother it etc. You should never trust any animal with children, they are animals after all.

Energize · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:29

People need to stop reading the daily mail so much, even a jack Russell can cause a fatal bite. I'm amazed when I see parents who let their kids ride dangerous animals like horses and then have a panic attack over a staffie.

Soundood · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:30

Fenris said:
With that attitude I'm amazed you can even leave the house.

ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN!

with what attitude? the attitude of putting my kids safety beyond any dought? and if you must know, I do leave the house often, its all about commen sense, be my guest and lock your kids in a room with a staffy

let me guess, you dont have kids ehh?

Fenris said:
Well in that case you better never let your kids cross the road again.

unlike cars, dogs have freewill, to walk/eat/sleep/kill/maul

cars on the other hand are run by humans, like guns, there is no error, only human error.

now youve learned something, you can thank me later

November 4th 2009 - Dog attack girl has 17 stitches
Another child, 8 year old Courtney Charlesworth was attacked by another Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

An eight-year-old girl has had 17 stitches in her face after being mauled by the family dog.

Courtney said she was "very frightened" during the attack. Courtney Charlesworth, was stroking the 'family' pet at her home in East End Park, Leeds, when it suddenly turned on her.
Her mother said she was "very lucky" not to have been blinded as one bite narrowly missed the schoolgirl's eye.

The schoolgirl's father, Christopher Charlesworth, said the staffie got on well with his three daughters and there had been "no indication" that it would attack!!
He told BBC News: "It's just heart-wrenching. If it's going to bite anybody you want it to be yourself, not your kids.

Courtney said she was "very frightened" during the attack. She said: "I was just stroking the staffie (pictured below), and he just went for me.

Courtney's mother Julie said, "I'd left the staffie with the children loads of times by themselves, and he was fine with them.

Courtney's parents warn other families to be very careful when choosing a dog.

source: on request, as some of the images are too graphic for this forum

The Halk · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:30

Which is why I'd want it muzzled around my 2 year old. I don't think it's because it's a Staffordshire, I think it's because it's a dog in an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar people who are unfamiliar with dogs.

digipeep · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:33

Just read the OP post.

My dog was attacked by a Staffie a year ago, ******* dog went straight for my dog's throat.

The breed needs to be banned and destroyed full stop. Enough of this nonsense from people supporting this breed. They are just a plain nasty breed of dog and people who own them know exactly why they own them.

pegare · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:43

digipeep said:
Just read the OP post.

My dog was attacked by a Staffie a year ago, ******* dog went straight for my dog's throat.

The breed needs to be banned and destroyed full stop. Enough of this nonsense from people supporting this breed. They are just a plain nasty breed of dog and people who own them know exactly why they own them.

was your dog ok?

but i dont think the breed needs to be banned, its just the type of people that own them. seriously the only people i see with this breed of dog are chavvy looking people and other less than reputable looking chaps, usually skin heads covered in tatooes, why are they such a popular breed of dog?

Energize · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:45

digipeep said:
Just read the OP post.

My dog was attacked by a Staffie a year ago, ******* dog went straight for my dog's throat.

The breed needs to be banned and destroyed full stop. Enough of this nonsense from people supporting this breed. They are just a plain nasty breed of dog and people who own them know exactly why they own them.

Wrong forum, I think you meant to post here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

BDEE · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:47

digipeep said:
Just read the OP post.

My dog was attacked by a Staffie a year ago, ******* dog went straight for my dog's throat.

The breed needs to be banned and destroyed full stop. Enough of this nonsense from people supporting this breed. They are just a plain nasty breed of dog and people who own them know exactly why they own them.

What utter tosh.

Exactly the kind of uneducated BS which MASKS the fact that dog attacks / bites are not just confined to the "bull" breeds. I don't hold it against you, you have been conditioned by the press.

Until the press and government stop this nonsense about breed specific legislation and do something about irrespnsible owners, bites / attacks will continue to happen from all breeds of dog which have been incorrectly brought up as puppies or have owners that have brought them up to be "hard" / agressive. The fact that chavscum choose Staffies is not the breeds fault.

And by the way, this is from someone who doesn't own a staffie, but rather from someone who can see that BSL is a load of nonsense and it is the owners that need sorting out, not a "culling" of a specific breed of dog, which is actually soft as pig muck when correctly brought up.

digipeep · 10 Apr 2012 at 00:57

BDEE said:
What utter tosh.

Exactly the kind of uneducated BS which MASKS the fact that dog attacks / bites are not just confined to the "bull" breeds. I don't hold it against you, you have been conditioned by the press.

Until the press and government stop this nonsense about breed specific legislation and do something about irrespnsible owners, bites / attacks will continue to happen from all breeds of dog which have been incorrectly brought up as puppies or have owners that have brought them up to be "hard" / agressive. The fact that chavscum choose Staffies is not the breeds fault.

And by the way, this is from someone who doesn't own a staffie, but rather from someone who can see that BSL is a load of nonsense and it is the owners that need sorting out, not a "culling" of a specific breed of dog, which is actually soft as pig muck when correctly brought up.

What a load of ****. The only dogs I've ever had attack my dog are Bull breeds.

Sick and tired of people defending Staffies.

Any Staffie owners on here you should be ashamed. Do the decent thing and take your dog to the vet and have it put down. The rest of us dog owners don't want this breed tarnishing us.

pegare · 10 Apr 2012 at 01:01

digipeep said:
What a load of ****.

Sick and tired of people defending Staffies.

Any Staffie owners on here you should be ashamed. Do the decent thing and take your dog to the vet and have it put down. The rest of us dog owners don't want these breed tarnishing us.

is there any proof / statistics that this breed is any more violent / prone to attack than others? as far as i know every breed of dog can bite and sometimes do, espeically when it feels threatened, or meeting new people.