Dog Walking *Rant*

[MNuTz]

When I got there she went totally nuts at me saying why wasn't the dog on a lead and how dangerous they can be round children. I tried to explain to her the dog was use to children and people and certainly not dangerous. She had a foreign accent (European of some kind) and kept telling me in her country this would be illegal and that I would not be able to keep a dog like this. In a fit of temper I told her she was not in her country now so tough and turned around and left.

Got the kids and we returned to the car only to have a park keeper chasing after me shouting. I stopped and talked to him and he told me I was not welcome back in the park unless the dog was leashed at all times due to a complaint made. I am furious and may write to the council.

Id of shouted over the top of her, told her she wasnt in her ****** country and if she didnt like to to eff off!!!

Im pretty certain that if dogs are allowed in the park without leads then the keeper cant enforce you to make sure yours has one on unless its on the dangerous dogs list. Personally, id ignore the little jumped up hitler and go back anyway.

I would write to your council about it, make an official complaint about it.

We had a Rotty running loose in town the other day, the amount of people that are scared by them is amazing. I called the dog over to me the second time it ran past, it came bounding over, jumped up and licked me to death. I phoned the number on his collar and a woman came out to fetch him. Lovely dog.

 

[Visage]

From what he said he did. The dog returned when called. If the dog didnt then i agree that its not a good idea to let it off the lead.

The dog being interested ran over to her

And if the dog had attacked her at that point? How long would it have taken him to get to where the dog was? Long enough for the kid to be long gone, i'd wager.

At the end of the day, my kids right to not be mauled by an unconstrained dog will *always* trump the right of the dog to run free.

 

[Third Opinion]

Media hysteria doesn't help either. The amount of people who comment when she is on the lead as to why she isn't muzzled. I am sick of saying:

"BOXER DOGS ARE NOT ON THE DANGEROUS DOG LIST"

 

[MNuTz]

And if the dog had attacked her at that point? How long would it have taken him to get to where the dog was? Long enough for the kid to be long gone, i'd wager.

At the end of the day, my kids right to not be mauled by an unconstrained dog will *always* trump the right of the dog to run free.

He has the right to allow his dog to run free, its was playing with his children and if for one second he thought the dog was a risk to others he wouldnt have it off a lead.

My 2 dogs wouldnt hurt anyone, however, i never have them off a lead as they are too interested in other people and like to jump up for a fuss. The owner knows the tempremant of their dog and judges the situation accordingly.

I know there are occasions that dogs have attacked children, especially in the news recently. However, this doesnt mean all dogs will attack, but that maybe in those circumstances the dogs have been mistreated to a point that they dont know right from wrong.

 

[Third Opinion]

And if the dog had attacked her at that point? How long would it have taken him to get to where the dog was? Long enough for the kid to be long gone, i'd wager.

Her kids were not babies they were about 10 and 12 and significantly larger than my dog. She had walked within 20 yards of me so it probably would have taken about three seconds. She is a dog not a Ninja.

 

[Visage]

He has the right to allow his dog to run free, its was playing with his children and if for one second he thought the dog was a risk to others he wouldnt have it off a lead.

But no-one thinks their dog is a danger untili ts too late....

My 2 dogs wouldnt hurt anyone, however, i never have them off a lead as they are too interested in other people and like to jump up for a fuss. The owner knows the tempremant of their dog and judges the situation accordingly.

Can you be certain of that? Can you be ceratin that there's no provocation that would ever see your dog turn nasty? Kids can be evill so-and-sos when they want to be....

I know there are occasions that dogs have attacked children, especially in the news recently. However, this doesnt mean all dogs will attack, but that maybe in those circumstances the dogs have been mistreated to a point that they dont know right from wrong.

Of course - there are always cases where a given dog is a tragedy waiting to happen. Its just that when we're talking about situation where the consequences are so horrific then i think its perfectly understandable when a parents response may appear to be somewhat OTT....

 

[jas72]

My dog is just over Knee high. And Boxer dogs are renowned for being good with children.

If people of that scared of dogs then why do they approach people with dogs?

edit re-read your post

Yeah i'm with you on this as a dog lover the woman was OTT

 

[dirtydog]

Animals aren't predictable at all - you can never say for sure that he won't ever turn on someone. Personally, i'm with the woman on this one..

Ditto.

If I had my way all dogs would be on a lead at all times in any public place.

 

[dirtydog]

He has the right to allow his dog to run free, its was playing with his children and if for one second he thought the dog was a risk to others he wouldnt have it off a lead.

My 2 dogs wouldnt hurt anyone

Famous last words

 

[Third Opinion]

From what I read the dog bounded over curiously to the woman.

I'm not against the OP but I can understand the woman who might have a fear of dogs. However, an apology should have been enough and her hysterics were uncalled for.

Apology was made but then she gave me that old China about her country and it's laws. To be honest I wish she would get on the next boat and return there.

 

[AtreuS]

Ditto.

If I had my way all dogs would be on a lead at all times in any public place.

And if i had my way all kids under 16 would be kept indoors or at school at all times

Oh and all old people and woman banned from driving.... ohh and young attractive women only allowed to wear skimpy clothing!

 

[Phalanx]

some people just go out of their way to ruin someone elses day, find yourself another park and forget about that crazy woman

man that is so true. The dog did nothing wrong, therefore the owner did nothing wrong yet we have two people trying to screw him over.

I'd parcel bomb the council

and for the record, the actual chance of a tame dog going on someone is very low. That whole scandal about that poor girl who got mauled by a dog is an anomaly

 

[MNuTz]

But no-one thinks their dog is a danger untili ts too late....

Not true, when you own a dog you know if there is a potential risk. Ive just had my mums dog put down after it went for me. There are always little personality quirks, its started with something little with her dog, then moved onto things little standing between her and the phone while it was ringing with his teeth showing. He became very aggressive over a few years, we dont know his past as he was a rescue dog. I was there one day and we where messing about (me and brother), next thing i know i had a 5 stone dog trying to rip my arm off. I got him off, muzzled him and had him put down the next day.

And lets face it, if you owned a dog that had just savaged someone, would you turn around to the media and say "yeah, there was loads of warning signs that he was turning but i did sweet FA about it!"

Can you be certain of that? Can you be ceratin that there's no provocation that would ever see your dog turn nasty? Kids can be evill so-and-sos when they want to be....

I can with my oldest dog, we have only had the second one for nearly two months. He will be kept on a lead for a good year while i see what he is truly like.

Of course - there are always cases where a given dog is a tragedy waiting to happen. Its just that when we're talking about situation where the consequences are so horrific then i think its perfectly understandable when a parents response may appear to be somewhat OTT....

I agree, any parent would be wary of a dog approaching their kids. But then, if it was me, i would have made contact with the dog myself first before he got too close to the children. Im the eldest of 5 lads, we always had dogs. If a dog comes towards me im not scared, i call the dog for a fuss.

I just think that perhaps this woman was scared of dogs herself, and unwittingly could have provoked an attack by screaming. She did not act wisely in this case and needs to be showb how to handle a dog.

One tip for everyone, never run away from a dog. Many years ago someone came through our back gate, got half way to the door and saw my dog. They turned and bolted, my dog went after them. They thought it was attacking but he thought they were playing!

Famous last words

read my post will you before you rolleyes me, i know each and everyone of my dogs and im very careful with them, i never take risks with them, my new one is even on a lead when he is in the car, and if he is hanging out the window i hold the lead!

Its only people that dont know dogs that are scared of them or coome out with silly comments.

 

[Scarfacé]

The woman is right on this one. A mother will go to any length to protect her children. A random excited boxer dog running around her children in a park? If the dog decided to attack she'd be helpless.

You cannot assume it won't, dog's are unpredictable.
You also cannot assume that everyone is comfortable with random dogs around their children/babies.


I personally hate it when I'm out and someone's smelly dog will come over and start jumping all over me.

 

[Phalanx]

The woman is right on this one. A mother will go to any length to protect her children. A random excited boxer dog running around her children in a park? If the dog decided to attack she'd be helpless.

You cannot assume it won't, dog's are unpredictable.
You also cannot assume that everyone is comfortable with random dogs around their children/babies.


I personally hate it when I'm out and someone's smelly dog will come over and start jumping all over me.

it was the OP's kids, the woman was some crazy homeless person

 

[MNuTz]

it was the OP's kids, the woman was some crazy homeless person

Anyway a lady came along with her children walking fairly close to us.

I was simply a fact that the woman is not used to dogs, and didnt know how to handle the situation.

 

[dirtydog]

Not true, when you own a dog you know if there is a potential risk. Ive just had my mums dog put down after it went for me. There are always little personality quirks, its started with something little with her dog, then moved onto things little standing between her and the phone while it was ringing with his teeth showing. He became very aggressive over a few years, we dont know his past as he was a rescue dog. I was there one day and we where messing about (me and brother), next thing i know i had a 5 stone dog trying to rip my arm off. I got him off, muzzled him and had him put down the next day.

And lets face it, if you owned a dog that had just savaged someone, would you turn around to the media and say "yeah, there was loads of warning signs that he was turning but i did sweet FA about it!"

In fact I suspect that all of those owners whose 'harmless' dogs maul someone are exactly the same as yourself.

 

[Visage]

and for the record, the actual chance of a tame dog going on someone is very low. That whole scandal about that poor girl who got mauled by a dog is an anomaly

Im sure that that is a fantastic comfort for her parents......

 

[Phalanx]

I was simply a fact that the woman is not used to dogs, and didnt know how to handle the situation.

ah well, read it wrong, I just read a bit of the first post and imagined a guy walking with his kids and then this crazy woman who looks like grandma flanders or something

guy above^^^

well think about it, the chances of it actually happening are similar to the poor people who go walking out at night and get struck by lightning

or a piano falling on your head when you walk out the door

or some other very rare occurance that would put your life in jeopardy.

It's a real tragedy, i'm not denying that but in all honesty, the whole threat of tame loveable dogs all of a sudden mauling innocent little girls is pretty farfetched

 

[Third Opinion]

and for the record, the actual chance of a tame dog going on someone is very low. That whole scandal about that poor girl who got mauled by a dog is an anomaly

Agreed but I still think children should be closely monitered with animals, as much for the animals sake as for the child's safety.

I disagree with the comment about her not being under control, she was I didn't see this women coming other wise I would have called her back. You don't need to have a dog on a lead to be under control. Same with kids, you don't put a four year old on a lead you really on voice commands and being quick on your feet.