Dog Walking *Rant*

Im a dog owner....

ALL DOGS can bite its all about the damage they cause.........I still get concerned if im out with young children and a strange dog comes over........

~Maybe just keep a eye on him in the future if he goes near people and hes obediant as you say then call him back.

On a side note its like if you have a staffordshire terrier or a rotty or alsation or something big they normally have a higher pain threshold hence why people say they get on better with kids as they can be pulled about and dont mind where as a small dog like a yorkshire terrier would just bite first time it has its tail pulled (probably) BUT if one of the bigger dogs did get annoyed then the child would probably be dead as had been proved numerous times over the years.................

Personally i dont think anyone with children under 3-4 should have a medium + sized dog, as its just to much of a risk and there is no reason to risk a childs life in anyway what so ever

Anyway sorry to side track

EDIT oh yeah forgot to say lol i wo0uld of been annoyed if she spoke to me like that especially after you showed the dog was controlled and the leash put back on
 
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I'd be furious at that, to be honest some people are just like that.

Alternatively we could SEND HER BACK :mad:
 
Gavin said:
Personally i dont think anyone with children under 3-4 should have a medium + sized dog, as its just to much of a risk and there is no reason to risk a childs life in anyway what so ever
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Thats a fair point mate, but when i was born my parents had 2 big dogs and got another when i was 2.

I used to climb all over them, pull their tails, all the stuff a toddler does. The dogs just took it.

It comes down to the individual dog and how responsible the owner is.
 
dirtydog said:
Don't be silly.
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im not being silly, saying you would shoot a boxer that came towards you in the park is silly.

My point is that surely there is just as much chance of a jogger coming towards you being a mugger as there is a dog that is going to attack you! After all, more people get mugged a day than get attacked by dogs!

His first statement was just plain idiotic, i just wanted to point that out!
 
MNuTz said:
im not being silly, saying you would shoot a boxer that came towards you in the park is silly.

My point is that surely there is just as much chance of a jogger coming towards you being a mugger as there is a dog that is going to attack you! After all, more people get mugged a day than get attacked by dogs!

His first statement was just plain idiotic, i just wanted to point that out!
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...by making an idiotic statement yourself :)
 
dirtydog said:
...by making an idiotic statement yourself :)
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It wasnt idiotic, it was a valid analogy to make him realise his post was silly, he obvioulsy put no thought into his answer at all.

Do you not see that?

Dog running towards you, must be attacking you, must shoot it.

Jogger running towards you, must be mugging you, must shoot it.

Make it eaier for you?
 
MNuTz said:
If a dog in my house will go for anyone it will be me, i tug ears, pull tails, i annoy the hell out of them, and they take it. Family, friends, children and workmen we have had around the house. they are fine with all of them. I do everything to my dogs that a toddler would do, its the only way to be sure of the dogs boundaries and to tell you what you have to work on.
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The problem with that statement is there's too many "I"s in there. You can NEVER adopt the role of a stranger when interacting with your dogs.

I've got a little real life experience of "nice, safe" dogs turning. When my sister was just over a year old our parents took us to a (petting) farm. All the usual rabbits, sheep, goats etc and several collies that were sheep dogs for the working part of the farm. We did the whole farm tour and saw all the animals but as we were getting ready to leave one of the collies reached into my sisters cot and bit her right across her face. I was 5, maybe 6, at the time but remember it to this day. We'd had a Labrador when I was a baby/toddler so dad was happy to allow the "safe" dogs to interact with us.

After an hours drive to the closest hospital they stitched her face and showed us how close she came to being blind. The dogs canines had cut in just under her left eye leaving her tear duct severed and a scar on her right cheek that is still prominent today (she's 21 next week). This dog was used to people and children, the farm argued that the dog shouldn't be put down as it was such as asset to the business. My parents had to take the owner to court and he was ordered to destroy the animal.

For years both my sister and I were terrified of dogs, my dad was very protective and wouldn't hesitate to make it quite clear to both the owners and the dogs that they weren't welcome near us. Are you going to suggest that he over reacted?

As a responsible dog owner you understand that your dogs need to be cared for and requires exercise but you should also understand that some people either through personal experience or "media hype" are uncomfortable around dogs. There needs to be a compromise.

I'm fairly comfortable round dogs now but whereas you see a big, furry, "wouldn't hurt a fly" member of the family others see a powerful, unpredictable animal.
 
MNuTz said:
It wasnt idiotic, it was a valid analogy to make him realise his post was silly, he obvioulsy put no thought into his answer at all.

Do you not see that?

Dog running towards you, must be attacking you, must shoot it.

Jogger running towards you, must be mugging you, must shoot it.

Make it eaier for you?
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It is not out of the ordinary for a HUMAN to be out in public on his own without a lead or his 'owner' present :rolleyes: Dear me I can't believe we're having this conversation!
 
MTA99 said:
The problem with that statement is there's too many "I"s in there. You can NEVER adopt the role of a stranger when interacting with your dogs.....I'm fairly comfortable round dogs now but whereas you see a big, furry, "wouldn't hurt a fly" member of the family others see a powerful, unpredictable animal.
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Sorry to hear that, but in one of my other posts you will see that ive also put that i have others that come into my house all the time. They are all strangers at one point and all my friends treat my dogs like i do, even when meeting them for the first time.

My dogs are always meeting new people, and always being tested. I trust them, im not stupid though, i take care when out and about.
 
dirtydog said:
It is not out of the ordinary for a HUMAN to be out in public on his own without a lead or his 'owner' present :rolleyes: Dear me I can't believe we're having this conversation!
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I don't understand this comment are you suggesting that it is highly unusual for people not to have their dogs on a lead???
 
MNuTz said:
Sorry to hear that, but in one of my other posts you will see that ive also put that i have others that come into my house all the time. They are all strangers at one point and all my friends treat my dogs like i do, even when meeting them for the first time.

My dogs are always meeting new people, and always being tested. I trust them, im not stupid though, i take care when out and about.
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Tell me honestly: if one of your dogs ever hurt anyone, is there any possibility that you would blame your dog? I suspect you wouldn't hear of it, and would put all the blame onto the victim regardless of the circumstances.
 
Third Opinion said:
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back in the park unless the dog was leashed at all times due to a complaint made. I am furious and may write to the council.

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Haven't read anyone elses posts but quite simply you are in the wrong. End of.

Your dog, your responsiblity, you control it or lose it. People do NOT know what your dog is like, they do NOT know if it's friendly or not and some people do NOT like dogs.

Sorry for sounding flippant, but I really can't see why your livid over something that is your own fault.
 
dirtydog said:
It is not out of the ordinary for a HUMAN to be out in public on his own without a lead or his 'owner' present :rolleyes: Dear me I can't believe we're having this conversation!
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It doesnt matter, a human is just as likely, if not more likely to attack you than a dog is. Saying you would shoot a dog because it came up to you was a ******* stupid thing to say. I was simply trying to make him realise that just because someone/thing is coming towards you it doesnt mean they have ill intentions towards you.

dirtydog said:
Tell me honestly: if one of your dogs ever hurt anyone, is there any possibility that you would blame your dog? I suspect you wouldn't hear of it, and would put all the blame onto the victim regardless of the circumstances.
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No one can comment on that until it happens to them. I would want to speak to everyone involved and witnesses to see what really happened. If the evidence suggested that my dog snapped then it would be put down the same day. No questions asked. I do believe that once a dog bites, it will always bite. I am always a very fair and equal person in disputes. Emotion has no part in such a decision.
 
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Third Opinion said:
I don't understand this comment are you suggesting that it is highly unusual for people not to have their dogs on a lead???
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No, sadly it isn't unusual :)

I am saying that encountering such a dog as in the OP, is going to be intimidating and frightening to a lot of people. Encountering another bloody person is not.
 
MNuTz said:
Sorry to hear that, but in one of my other posts you will see that ive also put that i have others that come into my house all the time. They are all strangers at one point and all my friends treat my dogs like i do, even when meeting them for the first time.

My dogs are always meeting new people, and always being tested. I trust them, im not stupid though, i take care when out and about.
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Yes, but you can't possibly test them in every single circumstance with every single person. It is a risk based approach, in that the risk of your dog attacking someone is extremely low, but not zero. For you to say that there is absolutely zero risk of your dog attacking anyone is simply unquantifiable.
 
~J~ said:
Haven't read anyone elses posts but quite simply you are in the wrong. End of.

Your dog, your responsiblity, you control it or lose it. People do NOT know what your dog is like, they do NOT know if it's friendly or not and some people do NOT like dogs.

Sorry for sounding flippant, but I really can't see why your livid over something that is your own fault.
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What are you on about?

There are people who agree and people who don't. My dog was not dangerously out of control. The only person who seemed out of control was personal who went hysterical.

WHY APPROACH ME IF THEY ARE TERRIFIED????
 
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