Dolby Atmos Soundbar

hornetstinger said:
Op I suggest you go have a demo of a soundbar and budget system, listen to CD in stereo and movies

This site has mostly people happily spending £2000 on GPUs and just buy cheapest **** Logitech speakers.

If you bought that £450 wharfedale setup you could add or replace parts as needed, also in case of failure..

If you bought Sonos soundbar you have match it with their sub.

If I gave you a couple of PSA 21" subwoofers you wouldn't be able to them with the Sonos. If your TV lacks DTS out you wouldn't be able to use e-arc DTS.

Soundbars are better than built in flat panel but I'd rather recommend a t amp and some regular wall mount speakers rather than a soundbar.

That Samsung won't have 700w total power output not a chance. It'll be the usual overblown figures with high distortion
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My advice...

A good modern Atmos soundbar is great at the price point - they normally just plug in to your TV and after a few calibrations from an app on your phone or front panel, you have a nicely setup system for your room. It doesn't come with a CD player as the above post might suggest. This would be yet more additional equipment, if you'd ever use your TV setup to play CDs at all!?

The £450 Wharfdale speaker setup would also require an AV receiver, cables, speaker stands and to be setup correctly in your own living room for it to sound good.

The Sonos rear speakers and Sub get very good reviews too and their wireless (it's a new thing)...should you actually feel the need for them.

If someone ever gave me a pair of PSA 21" subwoofers I'd sell them and keep the £3k+ for hookers and charlie (not really dear, honest). I certainly wouldn't be paring them with anything I'd ever buy for my living room. If I had a full blown theatre I'd still be using something else to be honest.

The LG OLED range at this time doesn't support DTS but will again this year. IF your source material is from around the time of Shakespear and only comes in DTS (is that actually a thing at all?) and still want it in surround sound, then just plug said CD player, thingy, whatever straight into the Sonos as it covers all the mainstream formats.

Soundbars negate the need for cable runs and turning your living room into a gallery for odd looking wooden boxes. Of course you can get better sound quality, but just like a better viewing experience it'll cost you.

If you like your living room to have a certain 80s student digs vibe then by all means go for wall mount speakers ^^ and don't forget to chisel out all those lovely cable runs for them right through that lovely 70s paisley/flock wallpaper that you just know will come back into fashion.

If you want 700w in your living room I suggest you call Everest first, then the police and fire brigade as likely outcome will look like a gas leak.

I thank you.
 
Mr Blonde said:
My advice...

A good modern Atmos soundbar is great at the price point - they normally just plug in to your TV and after a few calibrations from an app on your phone or front panel, you have a nicely setup system for your room. It doesn't come with a CD player as the above post might suggest. This would be yet more additional equipment, if you'd ever use your TV setup to play CDs at all!?

The £450 Wharfdale speaker setup would also require an AV receiver, cables, speaker stands and to be setup correctly in your own living room for it to sound good.

The Sonos rear speakers and Sub get very good reviews too and their wireless (it's a new thing)...should you actually feel the need for them.

If someone ever gave me a pair of PSA 21" subwoofers I'd sell them and keep the £3k+ for hookers and charlie (not really dear, honest). I certainly wouldn't be paring them with anything I'd ever buy for my living room. If I had a full blown theatre I'd still be using something else to be honest.

The LG OLED range at this time doesn't support DTS but will again this year. IF your source material is from around the time of Shakespear and only comes in DTS (is that actually a thing at all?) and still want it in surround sound, then just plug said CD player, thingy, whatever straight into the Sonos as it covers all the mainstream formats.

Soundbars negate the need for cable runs and turning your living room into a gallery for odd looking wooden boxes. Of course you can get better sound quality, but just like a better viewing experience it'll cost you.

If you like your living room to have a certain 80s student digs vibe then by all means go for wall mount speakers ^^ and don't forget to chisel out all those lovely cable runs for them right through that lovely 70s paisley/flock wallpaper that you just know will come back into fashion.

If you want 700w in your living room I suggest you call Everest first, then the police and fire brigade as likely outcome will look like a gas leak.

I thank you.
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I don't have 700w of power in my room. Also that 700w from soundbar won't be that, gear like that price range is rated with fake numbers. Ratings has reviews that 990 but it's pay to read,.so would be interesting what the real numbers from the amplifiers are

My own system is around 6000w, true RMS. Those are the amplifiers output not the speaker power handling ;) if you know what that means..wouldn't be surprised soundbar use "maximum power handling" as their spec
 
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Junglist said:
It's a crazy amount for people who don't care as much as you do.

The internet is a funny place. You ask for help with X and then all they want to do is tell you why you need Y and not X.
I had it the same with laptops recently "Oh just buy a desktop" when asking about laptop models :rolleyes:
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You wait, we've not even had the guy who recommends you insulate next doors power sockets to avoid interference yet.
 
I have an lg g1 tv and a sonos beam v2. The soundbar is loads better than the built in tv speakers and the sound it produces is good quality for the price.
The mrs wasnt keen on speakers all over the living room and the soundbar is plenty loud enough with enough bass to make the mrs cover her ears and make me turn it down.
Not everone wants/can have a full atmos system.
 
iron_monkey said:
I have an lg g1 tv and a sonos beam v2. The soundbar is loads better than the built in tv speakers and the sound it produces is good quality for the price.
The mrs wasnt keen on speakers all over the living room and the soundbar is plenty loud enough with enough bass to make the mrs cover her ears and make me turn it down.
Not everone wants/can have a full atmos system.
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Speakers in TVs should be illegal, no one should be forced to be subjected to that torture
 
iron_monkey said:
I have an lg g1 tv and a sonos beam v2. The soundbar is loads better than the built in tv speakers and the sound it produces is good quality for the price.
The mrs wasnt keen on speakers all over the living room and the soundbar is plenty loud enough with enough bass to make the mrs cover her ears and make me turn it down.
Not everone wants/can have a full atmos system.
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Not hard to have better sound than the TV speakers

The sound in my lg is utter *****, laughably bad.

Ok for volume, and high frequency but no midrange and the bass there is just boomy distorted mess
 
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When i was looking the beam v2 was the best option for the price in all the reviews i could find. There may be better options around now tho. I spent hours googling reviews like im sure most of us on here do with all our purchases.
 
But the joy with Sonos is that it just works easily. For the Arc all I had to do was take it out of the box, connect power and a HDMI cable to the TV and then all I needed to do was walk around the room waving my phone about. Rinse and repeat when I added the sub.

Granted, I'm not an audiophile but to my ears and those who watch films at ours, the sound is brilliant when you consider it's just a soundbar+sub. I expect it's the same for any bars+subs. The ability to not have multiple speakers around the room and 'good enough' sound is what makes them brilliant solutions
 
Junglist said:
But the joy with Sonos is that it just works easily. For the Arc all I had to do was take it out of the box, connect power and a HDMI cable to the TV and then all I needed to do was walk around the room waving my phone about. Rinse and repeat when I added the sub.

Granted, I'm not an audiophile but to my ears and those who watch films at ours, the sound is brilliant when you consider it's just a soundbar+sub. I expect it's the same for any bars+subs. The ability to not have multiple speakers around the room and 'good enough' sound is what makes them brilliant solutions
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Will you be saying that once you have a music collection bigger than 65,000 tracks?
 
hornetstinger said:
Will you be saying that once you have a music collection bigger than 65,000 tracks?
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Seeing as that's likely not going to be a problem for me, or the vast majority of people, I don't think it matters.

When the day comes where I feel like I must just have access to 65,001 individual tracks, I'll cross that bridge. I don't think that's really as much of a strong against argument for most people as you think it is especially for a TV audio solution.
 
Junglist said:
Seeing as that's likely not going to be a problem for me, or the vast majority of people, I don't think it matters.

When the day comes where I feel like I must just have access to 65,001 individual tracks, I'll cross that bridge. I don't think that's really as much of a strong against argument for most people as you think it is especially for a TV audio solution.
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Sonos is integrated eco system.. as once you get sonos soundbar, it includes music database system does it not? Then you'd likely have sonos connect/amp elseware.

If you had a Denon HEOS it won't communicate with Sonos, or vice versa.

Sonos is inherently flawed. Like Apple. It's not a problem until you find out that issue, then your whole lot is junk.

If my Squeezebox comes obselete (it is) but I want to playback 192khz 24bit audio, I don't have to throwaway my speakers, subwoofer, and amplifiers.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Talk about going off on a tangent...

@Mr G I hope you're counting your music collection.
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It's a crappy limitation on an expensive eco system. I can understand for the early gen1 Sonos going back 20 years, but there is no excuse for it now.

Like buying a gaming PC then finding out the GPU is locked to 2560x1440. And the GPU is superglued into the PCI-E slot. And the motherboard is welded to the case. I believe those are called Apple Macs ;-)

It's not advertised either, so you could build an expensive multi room eco system you have 60,000 tracks in your collection, only to find a couple of years later it won't scan above that..sonos don't add a fix, or add memory upgrade modules either.

I would have spend £1000 on Sonos media streamers and I'd be ****** finding that out after..

visit richer sounds and have a demo of a couple of systems, think will you need expansion later on, say if you buy consoles and BD players, if you want to add more speakers, or upgrade specific components.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
Talk about going off on a tangent...

@Mr G I hope you're counting your music collection.
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I listen to the odd podcast, radio via TuneIn and stream the odd tune but no way am I an audiophile and don't desire to be. I've scrolled through and searched for some of the recommendations and no way am I spending £750+ on an audio system.

I made the effort to visit a John Lewis store and looked at the Bose Soundbar 600, Beam Gen 2 and found the Bose was slightly better with the upward firing speakers.

To be honest this is ample for our needs and if I want to add more later I can, but don't really think it's necessary. I can buy this in-store today with a good discount for £349.
 
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