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Donald Trump

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by wez130, Dec 19, 2019.

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  1. Pottsey

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    Oh dear oh dear oh dear I see you are still stuck in the past as a coping mechanisms to avoid thinking about how badly Trump is handling the virus and as a way to avoid admitting your many mistakes. None of that changes the fact Trump is destroying the economy, causing massive job loss's while causing massive deaths beyond what was predicated or needed. Trump is directly responsible for the terrible state of the US and responsible for making America weak and a joke.
     
  2. The Geezer

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    What is the crime ?

    It is already known the CIA were tracking certain individuals of interest unfortunately these individuals also made contact with the Trump Campaign at which point their details got logged.


    “There is nothing improper about asking to unmask the name of a US person in a classified intelligence report as long as the requester has authorization and a justified reason,” said Barbara McQuade, a law professor at the University of Michigan.

    “If an unnamed US person were having suspicious communications with a foreign government, for example, then members of the intelligence community would have a duty to learn the person’s identity by requesting unmasking so that they could effectively assess the information,” McQuade added.
     
  3. chroniclard

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    There isn't one. It's just a CT wet dream Trump has programmed them with.
     
  4. Colonel_Klinck

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    Don't go hitting @tang0 with facts like that. He's down the rabbit hole and doesn't want to hear it. The fact Flynn broke the law and lied first to the VP and probably Trump before the FBI is irrelevant in his head.
     
  5. mjt

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    Seriously, what am I missing here?
    Crimes were suspected. People were investigated. Crooks were found guilty and sent to jail.

    :confused:
     
  6. tang0

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    If Flynn wasn't the target of an investigation, why was his name keep getting unmasked? Don't you think it's curious that they did most of the unmaskings before the call with Kysliak which was SUPPOSEDLY the predicate for the investigation?

    Why did Biden play dumb, when he was involved?

    Flynn is tip of the iceberg stuff, lots more to come
     
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  7. mjt

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    He still broke the law, so does it matter?

    If police had a warrant to search a house for drugs but instead found someone tied up and being held hostage in the basement and no drugs, would they just ignore it?
     
  8. Hedge

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    Let's say everything you say is all true and justice is served. Obama ends up in jail and you rejoice...

    What will your opinion on Donald Trump be? Him alone. Base it purely on what your eyes see and your ears hear every time he's on display.

    Just give us a real basic assessment of the guy.
     
  9. tang0

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    Literally no evidence he's guilty of anything
     
  10. Colonel_Klinck

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    Well Flynn was calling the Russian ambassador and telling him they should vote for Israel in a upcoming UN vote while he was a private citizen. The US UN Ambassador would have heard about this and could and should have asked the name to be unmasked.

    Honesty you are desperate for there to be something to this but there isn't. No one is going to be indicted. Flynn is a criminal who confessed in court. Hopefully the judge drags Barr in to explain himself.

    As for Obamagate...

     
  11. tang0

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    Confessed to what? Where's the evidence? Where's the original 302 that proves his guilt? Why is that 302 missing?

    Why did the prosecutor and his previous lawyers say there was no brady material, but later found that they were hiding it?

    Why did the FBI drop the investigation into Flynn stating there they found no derogatory evidence?

    He only plead guilty to protect his son, as they had to get something on him (see released unredacted documents)

    He withdrew the plea and the DOJ dropped the case

    What's he guilty of?
     
  12. chroniclard

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    lol, scrabbling around trying to cook up some mad CT. Really cringeworthy.
     
  13. The Geezer

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  14. hominid

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    You wouldn't know what the real world was if it hit you in the face..

    Those figures, from all over the world, have been massively massaged from the start. Also the regime to put people on vents ASAP was wrong and it probably killed more than it saved.

    The field hospitals were never used! all of the projections were wrong, not just by a little but by an order of magnitude. This will be seen as the biggest over-reaction in the history of the world, causing recessions in the countries that followed the WHO's advice - advice that was massively flawed.

    Flynn getting free is one step of many that need to happen, it's always the same protagonists behind the scenes pulling the strings and we are starting to see them unmasked.
     
  15. The Geezer

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    Got it, nothing to see here. A novel coronavirus variant causes no harm it’s just how we chose to deal with it that caused the deaths.

    Thanks for clarifying, have you got a peer reviewed paper I could read please. It’s the only way I’ll learn to keep up.
     
  16. hominid

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    Didn't say that.

    I didn't say all..

    No problem.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-panacea-for-critically-ill-covid-19-patients here's the results of 3 studies..
    I doubt you could as your bias is getting in the way.

    Did you know in the US if the hospital diagnoses you as CV-19 they get $13,000? Also, if they then put then on a ventilator they treble that to $39,000? You can't see how that might be a reason to help massage figures and also killing people in the first place?
     
  17. mjt

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    People are being put on ventilators because they need them, not because the hospital gets more money. Are you for real?
    People aren’t dying because of the ventilators; people on ventilators are dying because the virus damages the lungs. Read the ******* article.
     
  18. Yas786

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    Lol don’t be silly, when has a trump supporter ever read anything ;).
     
  19. The Geezer

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    Read the first paper: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30079-5/fulltext

    YOUR conclusions are wrong, it’s all there in the paper you don’t even need to interpret.

    Start with the APACHE II / Glasgow scores of the patients upon admission to ICU and remember a key symptom is ARDS.

    You then take into account the oxygen per patient type and remember the patients with underlying health conditions prove to be fatal at higher rate.

    Anyway, I’m not here to translate medical papers for you but if you’re going to throw around conclusions at least read the paper first.
     
  20. FortuitousFluke

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    Whoa whoa whoa slow down chap, he may be on to something. Did you know that the death rate for Ebola patients who receive treatment is around 50%? It seems quite clear that ebola treatments are killing 50% of the patients they're used on. I mean....that's just maths. This whole modern medicine experiment is the biggest scandal in history.
     
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