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Doom Vulkan vs Open GL performance

Nice video. I recommend using handbrake to convert the video as it's quick and easy and with the right settings trims the file size down nicely while still remaining high quality.

thank you for posting this, decent performance and it does show what most people are talking about.

AMD cards perform admirably well, no one is denying this but still far away from 1080. Now hopefully we can put this to rest and enjoy our games. 100+ fps is more than playable in my eyes.
 
indeed, disgusted how MS are using dx12 to try and get people on win10, whilst vulkan is on new and old windows + linux + android.

They did the same with DX11 and Vista so nothing new and will remain the same for as long as possible.

Honestly people not moving onto the latest software is half the reason it is just this bad now. There is a reason that Apple push out all OS updates and you have no choice there.

Vulkan would be great if we actually had an alternative gaming OS that was any good but it's the horse before he cart scenario. No one is really developing a good quality gaming OS that has basic PC functions still that means Vulkan would be first choice and Vulkan won't be pushed enough because most game on Windows which will push people to DX12 in the mid term.

That means games such as Doom on Vulkan so far are likely to be rare until the Devs understand what is best and how to make things work. ID Tech have always flipped a finger at DX so will likely be that it is Vulkan only in the future with games built ground up for it.

Although Frostbite and Unreal will run Vulkan I don't imagine they will be dropping DX12 which will be their primary first with Vulkan support added later.
 
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Problem with Computerbase is that they only render one image and not even try to move.

According to Computerbase Doom benchmarks Fury X is 20% faster then GTX 980 TI ,however in this video Fury X is 25% slower then GTX 980 Ti on Vulkan.

Similar settings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWzpAiRPM0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydOD1321Ag

Something not right there. I am getting far superior performance to that FuryX in that video with a FuryPro. I'd also like to see 1440p, since I believe Nvidia hardware are seeing gains in 1080p only on high end cards due to cpu bottlenecks.

Is this true computerbase are using still frames as benchmark results? Where has this been documented?
 
They did the same with DX11 and Vista so nothing new and will remain the same for as long as possible.

Honestly people not moving onto the latest software is half the reason it is just this bad now. There is a reason that Apple push out all OS updates and you have no choice there.

Vulkan would be great if we actually had an alternative gaming OS that was any good but it's the horse before he cart scenario. No one is really developing a good quality gaming OS that has basic PC functions still that means Vulkan would be first choice and Vulkan won't be pushed enough because most game on Windows which will push people to DX12 in the mid term.

That means games such as Doom on Vulkan so far are likely to be rare until the Devs understand what is best and how to make things work. ID Tech have always flipped a finger at DX so will likely be that it is Vulkan only in the future with games built ground up for it.

Although Frostbite and Unreal will run Vulkan I don't imagine they will be dropping DX12 which will be their primary first with Vulkan support added later.


game engine with Vulkan build would force a better dx12 along the way also.
patching is ok but to really make the best need game engines.
hopefully dice dont screw up that with Bf1
 
Something not right there. I am getting far superior performance to that FuryX in that video with a FuryPro. I'd also like to see 1440p, since I believe Nvidia hardware are seeing gains in 1080p only on high end cards due to cpu bottlenecks.

Is this true computerbase are using still frames as benchmark results? Where has this been documented?

Because both are getting hit in performance due to recording ,which is around 10%. I do not remember but i think it was Mirror Edge 2 benchmark ,which they did around 20 secs of benchmark for each card.

However, unlike all websites computerbase never tells or show how or where they did the benchmark ,which makes their benchmark quiet irrelevant .
 
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Because both are getting hit in performance due to recording ,which is around 10%. I do not remember but i think it was Mirror Edge 2 benchmark ,which they did around 20 secs of benchmark for each card.

However, unlike all websites computerbase never tells or show how or where they did the benchmark ,which makes their benchmark quiet irrelevant .

So it hasn't been documented then?
 

Yeah good post(s) and much more accurate than most people - though I'd slightly disagree on a couple of points - it is possible to get gains from Maxwell - just takes a lot more thought and depends more on the nature of the workload compared to GCN which you can load up far more indiscriminately - as he/she said you are over-riding the architecture's native functionality to a degree so you really need to know how the card works with Maxwell to know if doing things differently will have a benefit. Which kind of explains the delay in support with Doom.
 
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Not exactly. If people are going to make claims about testing methods they should know by now on this site you'll be pulled up about it for not providing a source ;)

I do not know ,however, i tried to lower my clocks of GTX 980 Ti and memory but still i cannot reach the lower performance of Computerbase.

You can make a video and i will post it with the same method as yours to prove that Computerbase benchmark is totally BS like they did with Mirror Edge 2.
 
I do not know ,however, i tried to lower my clocks of GTX 980 Ti and memory but still i cannot reach the lower performance of Computerbase.

You can make a video and i will post it with the same method as yours to prove that Computerbase benchmark is totally BS like they did with Mirror Edge 2.

Sure. Out of curiosity do you get an increase at 1440p and 4k as well with Vulkan?

Also Gregster if your out there I wouldn't mind if you tried again at 1080p, even if your gtx 1080 will be too strong for the game at the res I'm pretty sure you will get higher fps.
 
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Sure. Out of curiosity do you get an increase at 1440p and 4k as well with Vulkan?

Also Gregster if your out there I wouldn't mind if you tried again at 1080p, even if your gtx 1080 will be too strong for the game at the res I'm pretty sure you will get higher fps.

Yes i do ,however, one thing i put on note is that on SMAA i lose around 10% of performance compare to TSSAA on Vulkan.
 
Yes i do ,however, one thing i put on note is that on SMAA i lose around 10% of performance compare to TSSAA on Vulkan.

How much more roughly? I'm getting some nice gains across the board. I warn you the Fury is going to be tough to beat at 1440p and 4k :) .

Edit: Btw with AMD cards you need TSSAA for Vulkan to work so maybe that's your problem too.
 
How much more roughly? I'm getting some nice gains across the board. I warn you the Fury is going to be tough to beat at 1440p and 4k :) .

Edit: Btw with AMD cards you need TSSAA for Vulkan to work so maybe that's your problem too.

Max is around 15% on 1440p and on 1080p it is like 20% max.
 
indeed, disgusted how MS are using dx12 to try and get people on win10, whilst vulkan is on new and old windows + linux + android.

I'm more bothered by how they try to use it for the store and how closed of the store and it's games are, For example access to game files is blocked and access to the games by 3rd party programs isn't possible, along with how they seem to want to minimize how much control we have within the games settings.
I quite like Win 10, It's certainly better than Win 8 in my opinion and a lot closer to Win 7 in that it is relatively easy to live with. I have had issues getting the store to work but it turned out they where due more to there attempts to create it's own little eco system more than anything else as already addressed.
As a rule I will buy my games elsewhere when the option is there but as I did recently when buying Gears of war in the store's summer sale I won't stop myself from getting the games I really want because of there only being available there..
 
Windows 10 store is one of the worst implementations of a store/repository like feature I've seen - how can a big company with MS's experience get it so wrong?
 
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