Dover Ferry Queues

The UK government is the professional victim.

They do nothing. Something goes wrong, and its someone elses fault.

The point @Irish_Tom made about the police and how they should help. I agree. As seen by the recent news articles, its not like the police are doing much of anything else these days.
 
Blaming others seems to be spreading, Heathrow's CEO now saying people pretending to be disabled is another factor in huge delays.
 
The UK government is the professional victim.

They are basically that person everyone knows who is a complete **** but gets away with it time after time for ridiculous reasons.

COVID gave them a free pass for pretty much anything Brexit related because "oh thats COVIDs fault" and they are already slimy enough that very little sticks to them.
 
I live just around the corner from the port and my partner works there, so I have a deep and knowledgable understanding of how things operate and on the ground this has been the worst summer since 'B' word happened. The sheer amount of traffic compared last year and the year before is nothing compared to how it's been this summer. She says and I quote "I've never seen so many vehicles in my life!".
 
The UK government is the professional victim.

They do nothing. Something goes wrong, and its someone elses fault.

The point @Irish_Tom made about the police and how they should help. I agree. As seen by the recent news articles, its not like the police are doing much of anything else these days.

The ability to turn a blind eye to anything remotely difficult or controversial to handle is seemingly a prerequisite of joining the police force these days, along with having supple knees and the ability to utter "Lessons will be learned", parrot fashion.
 
Blaming others seems to be spreading, Heathrow's CEO now saying people pretending to be disabled is another factor in huge delays.

It wouldn't surprise me. Some guy posted on social media about doing this and saving himself loads of time and you know what the dregs of social media are like. Anything for the likes and the few seconds of fame. I imagine that trying to deal with disabled people in a packed airport is borderline impossible without having to deal with ***** pretending.

We really need to start just banning people from flying when they act like *****. Get kicked off a flight for bad behaviour, cool, you're banned for life. Get caught pretending to be disabled? Banned for life. Assault someone in an airport? Banned for life.
 
I live just around the corner from the port and my partner works there, so I have a deep and knowledgable understanding of how things operate and on the ground this has been the worst summer since 'B' word happened. The sheer amount of traffic compared last year and the year before is nothing compared to how it's been this summer. She says and I quote "I've never seen so many vehicles in my life!".
That's a pretty long corner.
 
I live just around the corner from the port and my partner works there, so I have a deep and knowledgable understanding of how things operate and on the ground this has been the worst summer since 'B' word happened. The sheer amount of traffic compared last year and the year before is nothing compared to how it's been this summer. She says and I quote "I've never seen so many vehicles in my life!".
Location: Birmingham
 
I've travelled through airports being disabled, though not in recent years.

From my understanding its the individual airlines that carry out the helping of disabled passengers, not the airport itself. I could be wrong though. I know the airlines do at least part of it as I've had experiences were the airlines have gone the extra mile, while others who messed it up totally.

On the Dover situation. From my observations of this, the UK government needs to either come to some immigration agreement with France (and maybe Spain) were they agree a version of free movement so that the immigration people only need to identify your British, French or Spanish and wave you through, like what used to happen. If that kind of deal is possible to be done then make it a template for other countries too. If that can't be done then the French are talking about UK joining the Schengen agreement, which would have the same effect. I'm not sure what restrictions can be applied during that agreement. From next year the EU will be making everyone outside of the EU have to apply for a Schengen electronic waiver.

1. Other non-EU countries are involved in Schengen, 2. Next year UK people will have to apply for an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) electronic waiver, which is replacing the physical Schengen visa (at the moment we dont need a visa or waiver. But we will when ETIAS starts in 2023). 3. As if all this chaos isn't enough the UK is introducing its own ETA (Electronic Travel Authorisation) waiver, which will be trialed from 2023 to a few countries around the world, then by 2025 will be brought in for most other countries, including the EU. So we're going to have a double whammy. I think it would be better for the EU ETIAS and the UK ETA systems to merge, if not for the pure fact that currently both systems won't be able to access each others data. If they merged then we'd be able to share traveller information, and of course we'd have less delays.
 
I've travelled through airports being disabled, though not in recent years.

From my understanding its the individual airlines that carry out the helping of disabled passengers, not the airport itself. I could be wrong though. I know the airlines do at least part of it as I've had experiences were the airlines have gone the extra mile, while others who messed it up totally.

On the Dover situation. From my observations of this, the UK government needs to either come to some immigration agreement with France (and maybe Spain) were they agree a version of free movement so that the immigration people only need to identify your British, French or Spanish and wave you through, like what used to happen. If that kind of deal is possible to be done then make it a template for other countries too. If that can't be done then the French are talking about UK joining the Schengen agreement, which would have the same effect. I'm not sure what restrictions can be applied during that agreement. From next year the EU will be making everyone outside of the EU have to apply for a Schengen electronic waiver.

1. Other non-EU countries are involved in Schengen, 2. Next year UK people will have to apply for an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorisation System) electronic waiver, which is replacing the physical Schengen visa (at the moment we dont need a visa or waiver. But we will when ETIAS starts in 2023). 3. As if all this chaos isn't enough the UK is introducing its own ETA (Electronic Travel Authorisation) waiver, which will be trialed from 2023 to a few countries around the world, then by 2025 will be brought in for most other countries, including the EU. So we're going to have a double whammy. I think it would be better for the EU ETIAS and the UK ETA systems to merge, if not for the pure fact that currently both systems won't be able to access each others data. If they merged then we'd be able to share traveller information, and of course we'd have less delays.

No we don't, there's enough "assisted" illegal immigration, if Draconian application of travel checks cause delay and inconvenience, then so be it.
 
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I live just around the corner from the port and my partner works there, so I have a deep and knowledgable understanding of how things operate and on the ground this has been the worst summer since 'B' word happened. The sheer amount of traffic compared last year and the year before is nothing compared to how it's been this summer. She says and I quote "I've never seen so many vehicles in my life!".

Part of the problem is the road network in this country everything is funnelled thru london/M25 and M20 into Kent everytime I punch in a route into satnav it wants to take me via the M25 and everyone else is the same and lo and behold I look on the route planner and theres always a jam on it somewhere or other if I plot a different route myself avoiding it its fine, like last weekend's holiday getaway. You can get a ferry to Dieppe no problem ferries to france from Portsmouth are no problem its just Dover because everyone and his dog are heading down there nose to tail (although if you want Eurotunnel you have no other option). Think outside the box.
 
Part of the problem is the road network in this country everything is funnelled thru london/M25 and M20 into Kent everytime I punch in a route into satnav it wants to take me via the M25 and everyone else is the same and lo and behold I look on the route planner and theres always a jam on it somewhere or other if I plot a different route myself avoiding it its fine, like last weekend's holiday getaway. You can get a ferry to Dieppe no problem ferries to france from Portsmouth are no problem its just Dover because everyone and his dog are heading down there nose to tail (although if you want Eurotunnel you have no other option). Think outside the box.

God, not, err Scotland??? They eat their young up there, or so I'm told... ;)
 
No we don't, there's enough "assisted" illegal immigration, if Dracoian application of travel checks casue delay and inconvenience, then so be it.
I'm not a fan of globalism, and I haven't travelled to the EU. So none of this effects me personally.

But we have to be practical that we now live in an inter-connected world, and this Dover situation is going to get increasingly worst, especially when the UK starts imposing restrictions on the other side.

The UK government needs to crack down on illegal immigration. We have it in our powers already. We don't need Rwanda. Just build a massive building and process the applications (for some reason isn't being done at the moment). We have a backlog, people being allowed to walk around the country freely (even though they are still illegal) because our own governments non-action. To say we have a Conservative government shows how much of a fake they are.
 
Would be nice if someone from the Government did their job. Which is to get Eurotunnel, Port of Dover and French customs / home office around a table and figure out the best way forward. For me it's relatively simple - give Eurotunnel / Dover the what ever million to build additional customs facilities / lanes that they asked for - it is as clear as day both companies need (Dover has what 3-4 lanes? Eurotunnel at Folkstone has 2-3 yet at Calais they have about 10). If you need longer to check passports (which they do now) but you've not put in place any extra facilities then you're going to get longer waits, and compounded if there are staff shortages for any reason.

If French custom officials do travel back and forth on Eurotunnel and they were delayed, then that doesn't suprise me at all. Eurotunnels service levels have dropped through the floor the last 3-4 years with a noticeable increase of broken down trains and schedule delays. The trains are looking old (they are), roads, layouts at Folkstone just aren't up to scratch anymore.

I would also like to know why UK Customs continually short staff customs in Eurotunnel at Calais. The last 3 years at peak times it's a joke and that's caused hours and hours of delays. I've not seen that make the news much but it happens during the summer, Easter and Christmas.

Half of this no matter what people say is because of B but there are other issues too.
 
I'm not a fan of globalism, and I haven't travelled to the EU. So none of this effects me personally.

But we have to be practical that we now live in an inter-connected world, and this Dover situation is going to get increasingly worst, especially when the UK starts imposing restrictions on the other side.

The UK government needs to crack down on illegal immigration. We have it in our powers already. We don't need Rwanda. Just build a massive building and process the applications (for some reason isn't being done at the moment). We have a backlog, people being allowed to walk around the country freely (even though they are still illegal) because our own governments non-action. To say we have a Conservative government shows how much of a fake they are.

It's even worse than that, migrants trying to reach the UK illegally in dinghies now look like having the support of legal companies to bring a claim against us or the French for "allowing" them to drown carrying out their unlawful pursuits. You couldn't make it up how the law has allowed criminals to bring claims for injury during their criminality.

 
From my observations of this, the UK government needs to either come to some immigration agreement with France (and maybe Spain) were they agree a version of free movement so that the immigration people only need to identify your British, French or Spanish and wave you through, like what used to happen.

You reformed Brexiters are worse than us remainers ;)
 
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