Dr Michael Mosley goes missing during hike on Greek island

arknor said:
doesnt stop the GPS working, or google navigation as long as you start the navigation whilst you have internet

Seems like nothing but arrogance killed the guy, any non famous TV doctor would have taken precuations or avoided the heat.

but he knew better


suprised someone so wealthy didn;t have an apple watch that notifies someone when your in trouble
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I doubt being famous is a big contributor to the decision-making process over just being a stubborn old man in a heat-induced delirium.
 
I think people are reading too much into his decision making. It was a 20 minute walk across a bit of moderately rough terrain on the outskirts of a town. He wasn't climbing a mountain on a 5 day expedition. Even in heat the risk is minimal for a fit bloke for such a short trip. Probably didn't give it a second thought at the time.
 
Having once happened to me in a Sainsburys car park on a hot day. I became very dehydrated and someone recognised that I was in trouble, could not walk, talk or focus and sat me down outside the store. A manager cane out with something to drink and some chocolate I think. Then the store first aider checked me over. They would not let me leave until I was able to count backwards from twenty, had a regular pulse and was generally making sense. I was driving a car though.

This may not be the same but without some basic first aid attention I could have been a lot worse off. It was ten years ago and I take care it does not happen again. Always carry fluids and drink two or three pints of squash per day on top of coffee and tea when at home.
 
danlightbulb said:
I think people are reading too much into his decision making. It was a 20 minute walk across a bit of moderately rough terrain on the outskirts of a town. He wasn't climbing a mountain on a 5 day expedition. Even in heat the risk is minimal for a fit bloke for such a short trip. Probably didn't give it a second thought at the time.
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I think it's all just as simple as that really.
 
danlightbulb said:
I think people are reading too much into his decision making. It was a 20 minute walk across a bit of moderately rough terrain on the outskirts of a town. He wasn't climbing a mountain on a 5 day expedition. Even in heat the risk is minimal for a fit bloke for such a short trip. Probably didn't give it a second thought at the time.
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It sounds like he was already in trouble when he left the beach. Maybe even your average doctor doesn't realise it is though
 
Hagar said:
Having once happened to me in a Sainsburys car park on a hot day. I became very dehydrated and someone recognised that I was in trouble, could not walk, talk or focus and sat me down outside the store. A manager cane out with something to drink and some chocolate I think. Then the store first aider checked me over. They would not let me leave until I was able to count backwards from twenty, had a regular pulse and was generally making sense. I was driving a car though.

This may not be the same but without some basic first aid attention I could have been a lot worse off. It was ten years ago and I take care it does not happen again. Always carry fluids and drink two or three pints of squash per day on top of coffee and tea when at home.
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You made me grab a water tbh as I tend not to drink enough, well a flask of tea but sometimes will do a full shift without a pee and it gets full on hot in the summer in basically an old. cowshed (bottling gin)
 
firstborn said:
You do realise people run ultra marathons in deserts, in 40+ heat?
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Incredibly fit world class athletes in their 20s trained in high heat environments, maybe. But older people regularly die from heat stroke in this level of heat. Dr MM's male family members died out of nowhere in their early 70s. So going for a walk in said heat was a very bad idea and he was already unwell before he undertook the walk.

I'd add when I was 13/14 I visited Malawi and went on a few hour long road trip 1 day. During and after this trip I became very very light headed and very sick for about a week. It's hard to say, but I think it was the heat and not a virus.
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
I'd add when I was 13/14 I visited Malawi and went on a few hour long road trip 1 day. During and after this trip I became very very light headed and very sick for about a week. It's hard to say, but I think it was the heat and not a virus.
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I'd lean towards it being from disease especially if you didn't stick to bottled water - various colleagues have visited that part of the world over the years and either them or one or more of their family have inevitably ended up with something due to water/food or ended up with dengue fever or the likes.

Though the heat and not replacing enough water and electrolytes can get someone not used to it pretty bad.
 
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Rroff said:
I'd lean towards it being from disease especially if you didn't stick to bottled water - various colleagues have visited that part of the world over the years and either them or one or more of their family have inevitably ended up with something due to water/food or ended up with dengue fever or the likes.

Though the heat and not replacing enough water and electrolytes can get someone not used to it pretty bad.
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It totally could have been disease, it was just the fact I went to 100% normal, to into another realm of extreme sickness after a 2 hour car journey in extreme heat

The better memory's of the trip was a train ride with free access to a bath filled with lagers and ice in one of the train compartments. That was my first heavy boozing experience as a very young lad and I found it an amazing experience. Also you could buy 20 packs of cigs for 50 pence over there at the time.
 
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ANDREW GREEN said:
a train ride with free access to a bath filled with lagers and ice in one of the train compartments. That was my first heavy boozing experience as a very young lad and I found it an amazing experience.
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Probably more likely explanation then :p heavy boozing + heat requires a lot of fluids and electrolytes.
 
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