Drink Driving

Everything I have said is credible. Its easy to denounce it as rubbish if you have no argument to the contrary.
I've found estimates (still looking for full statistics, so won't give any links at this stage) that the number of accidents per million miles driven is at much as 11 times higher for drink drivers than sober drivers.

That's an order of magnitude, which is pretty much what I expected when I suggested this sort of situation earlier.
 
Hmmm in the time paramedics respond, and drive to your home, and arrive at your home to help let's say your mother, you could already be at the emergency room in the hospital if you drive yourself, while if you'd wait, at best she'd only be in an ambulance, rather than at the hospital.

what?? so its quicker for you, who has had a few tins on the sofa, to respond to an emergency as opposed to calling on the ' emergency services' ?
 
Lol what?

More people have died "fighting" for us in the middle east this year than drink driving..

You gonna ban war too ?

:rolleyes:

Everything I have said is credible. Its easy to denounce it as rubbish if you have no argument to the contrary.

That is a ridiculous comment, are you seriously condoning drink driving?
 
what?? so its quicker for you, who has had a few tins on the sofa, to respond to an emergency as opposed to calling on the ' emergency services' ?

Well. Logically. Yeah. Assuming you don't live close to the ambulance station/location of any of there vehciles you essentially do half the journey. So the emergency services would have to travel on average twice as fast as you for the journey, which whilst possible isn't necessarily likely.

This is a defence of the maths of the opinion not the opinion itself.

One of my ex's used to drink drive often despite always telling me she wouldn't. Smashed her car into a wall one time and had to phone up the insurance company and claim it was another drivers fault who then drove off as she didnt want to pay for the repair :eek:

Although I see nothing wrong with having one or two pints and driving, I do it frequently!
 
Why?

Everything I have said is true.

Drink driving isnt the pure evil its made out to be, anyone that thinks so has been conditioned by goverment propaganda.

Take the drink out of the equation and people will still have accidents.

Drink driving accounts for less than 10% of all road fatalities.

Rougly 3500 fatalities a year, 336 caused by drink driving.

Hardly the demon its made out to be is it??

People need to keep things in perspective.. sure its a silly thing to do... but its just one factor in MANY. Look at the Passionford guy for instance... stupid people do stupid things, the drinking is just a tiny part of it.

I feel sorry for people that are so suggestable that they talk with such venom about this topic, when in reality its not that big a deal.

On the whole people are pretty sensible, and most serious drink driving incedents are with young people. Most of the older people are collared the morning after or coming home from a meal out with friends having had too large a glass of wine for instance.

In addition, Drink driving is perfectly legal. The only illegal part is driving whilst over the prescribed limit... So I think people need to be more specific when using this phrase, as I would imagine probably 98% of people have drink driven at some point even if its just a pint.

There is nothing wrong with having a pint and driving, I dont understand all the crybabies and do gooders saying its drink OR drive, when the law clearly states you are allowed to do both, perfectly legally.

Really what it boils down to has nothing to do with alcohol.. its stupidity. The people that get into a car after some pills and booze, are the sorts of people that would quite easily put other peoples lives in danger when they are sober...

Thats an unusual point of view i must say.
 
what?? so its quicker for you, who has had a few tins on the sofa, to respond to an emergency as opposed to calling on the ' emergency services' ?

Well yes, obviously.

You are at point A.
Ambulance is at point B.
You must travel A-->B.
Ambulance must travel B-->A-->B.

I regularly drive after a pint with colleagues on Friday lunch times. Maybe it makes me 0.1% more likely to have an incident but so does having a bad night's sleep or changing the track on my radio.
 
Do you not find it affects your reactions?

Nope. I don't tend to find my reactions affected until after several pints which I wouldn't risk going to. 2 pints has no noticeable effect on me (from my point of view anyway!! :D ) unless I haven't eaten. Which is unusual for me...
 
I appreciate you're not trying to excuse it, but I can't imagine any VALID excuse for drink driving. Period.

I have a friend who lives near a Petrochemical plant, it has two warning sirens that they have told the local residents about:

Intermittent: Fire alarm
Continuous: "we've screwed up, the plant will very shortly be a mile wide fireball and the is nothing we can do about it" alarm

I believe option number two would class as a valid excuse ^^



Seriously though, unless your in danger of being incinerated don't do it



Rougly 3500 fatalities a year, 336 caused by drink driving.

Just thought id mention they are not caused by drive driving they are caused by "alcohol related road accidents" the majority of them involve a drunk pedestrian and a vehicle
 
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Nope. I don't tend to find my reactions affected until after several pints which I wouldn't risk going to. 2 pints has no noticeable effect on me (from my point of view anyway!! :D ) unless I haven't eaten. Which is unusual for me...

Do you not worry you'll get pulled over? A couple of pints would put you over the limit surely?
 
I don't think he is ...

but people treat it as black and white. if you drink youll die or other kill people whilst trying it.

ive driven with alcohol in me plenty of times. ive never died once

i know there has to be a cut off somewhere, but it doesnt immediately mean people will die if youve had a drink
 
Do you not worry you'll get pulled over? A couple of pints would put you over the limit surely?

Not really. I drink bitters/ales that tend to be lower strength than lagers and combined with my porky nature and seasoned drinking I am quite confident that it wouldn't be an issue. Plus if I have done this I won't actually be driving straight after the second pint it would usually be over an hour or so later.
 
Im certainly NOT condoning drink driving... quite the contrary... I am suggesting is it not the work of the devil like many people make it out to be.

Generally most types of people who drink drive will end up in the **** somehow, regardless of whether its under the influence or not.

My other point was that Drink Driving is perfectly legal, in reponse to the Jehovas that preach they would never so much as touch a drop if they were considering driving.

There needs to be two scales really... one for the kids (teenagers) that go out for a drive with their mates while hammered on drugs and booze at the same time, and the middle aged professional who quaffed a glass of wine that put them slightly over the limit whilst giving their aged mother a lift home...

Id say the minor offenders should be getting say 3-4 months ban... with the punishments being made more severe for the guys with a real INTENT and WILFUL DISREGARD for their own, passengers, and other road users safety.

Its nuts the gaylords getting their g strings in a twist at the very mention of alcohol and driving, when the law quite clearly states that its perfectly legal to do...

Its the same type of idiocy that leads to paediatricians being labelled "paedos" by the same brainwashed morons who cant think for themselves!
 
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