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From the person who thinks Ricciardo is a distinctly average or worse driver more suited to TV work than a race seat, I'll take that as a compliment.
Poll: Dutch Grand Prix 2022, Circuit Zandvoort - Race 15
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I'd worry more about the people above Masi. The fact that he was doing everything by the book and then suddenly changed his mind screams of external motivation to have the race end under more exciting conditions. They even said that they'd try not to have the final race end under safety car.Indeed, but Masi doesn't work in F1 any more
Without wanting to derail… he could have easily not finished the race under the safety car by not letting any lapped cars unlap themselves after SC ending……………
No chance Lewis would beat Max in the RB - Max has a borderline clinical understanding of that car.
Yea, but that wouldn't be as exciting as the championship contenders fighting for the win. This has been discussed to death already though.
Keeping it on topic, Merc should've known from experience that they weren't going to hold an RB on fresh softs behind.
Caporegime
Zandvoort is not an easy track to pass, except with DRS and a big pace advantage. If Lewis hadn't made an engine mode mistake, and managed the restart better, he should have expected to be able to keep Max behind him until DRS was enabled. Merc will have hoped that three battling laps from Max would have taken the edge off his tyres and let Lewis stay ahead for the rest of his race as Max's tyre advantage diminished lap-by-lap.
Unlikely, but worth a gamble IMO. Getting a win is surely of more value to Merc than building points so they can move up a WCC position and get less windtunnel/CFC time next year as a result. I'm not sure the extra prize money would really make much difference to a team with a potential budget so much greater than what they're allowed to spend.
And I believe that Lewis is a more talented driver.
Charles passed Lewis with ease, and Ferrari were off the pace of RB and occasionally Merc. I mean Lewis making an engine mode mistake doesn't help, and not sure why that wasn't communicated to him, feels like it should be part of the pre-start check. If it was an engine mode thing then I don't think Max would have passed him at the start as he was relatively far back.
I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to get 3rd, but unlikely they'll hold back in races to secure that, although Ferrari seem to be helping them.
He was good at McLaren, but he's only had to fight Bottas and Rosberg in recent years, and when he has had to fight other cars, he makes mistakes. He's not as well rounded as other drivers, by which I mean driving, strategy, setup, technical understanding of the car, etc.
Probably still top 5, but I'd take MV and CL or MV and GR for my team.
He's had a rough time of it recently, poor car, couple of poor decisions and some really really repeated poor luck. I'm amazed that he is still as humble and well rounded as a driver to be honest.
Still the best out there for me
I think as with most drivers, time/age helps them deal with these things better. Vettel is a good example; he was a bit of a **** in his prime, but has become a hugely respected personality.
I haven't seen enough from Lewis to rate him above Max though.
Exactly. Case closed. Why do you think Alonso is still so bitter.
Yep.
I like the way Max is a better rounded driver to some people even though he's only ever driven for one team and hasn't even won a legitimate championship yet. His driving last year was erratic and dangerous and the only reason he got half of his points were by some dubious rockets up the inside whilst forcing Lewis off track. Multiple times. All season. To call him well rounded in comparison to half the drivers on the grid doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
And that makes him more rounded... how?
lol oh ok you're just trolling, silly me
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We're getting dangerously off topic in here now folks. I don't want to close this thread when it's only been two days since the race.
Lol
Not sure how these guys see anything on the track when they're so low in the car.
Insane track sense from Max to lift but still keep within striking distance for the overtake at the restart. Interesting that Lewis didn't think to lift, but I guess he was busy finding the right engine mode.
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x75reu
Insane track sense from Max to lift but still keep within striking distance for the overtake at the restart. Interesting that Lewis didn't think to lift, but I guess he was busy finding the right engine mode.
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x75reu
Caporegime
It's incredible how they can drive like that.
I don't think the leader is allowed to lift on safety car restart; isn't it considered erratic driving or something?
Good point, could very well be the case otherwise I'm sure we'd see drivers accelerate and then slow down to trip up the rest of the pack.
Soldato
Yer. That's probably why Max typically avoids being directly behind during a restart. Just incase...
Max in P2 usually prefers to be ahead of the race leader before a restart doesn’t he?
(Sorry mods I couldn’t resist, you may as well close the thread now lol)
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