DX11 only a short term advantage says NVIDIA

[RavenXXX2]

Lately pretty much anything relevant in news and articles that involves graphics products are linked somehow with ATI. as it's the only only developer right now offering DirectX 11-capable graphics cards.

Though they have yet to announce their own Fermi family products, NVIDIA reportedly doesn't see AMD's 60-day head start as something noteworthy in the grand scheme of things.

"To us, being out of sync with the API for a couple of months isn't as important as what we're trying to do in the big scheme of things for the next four or five years. We're just around the corner from preparing our next GeForce and the experience of what you'll see in 3D, what you'll feel in physics, and the improvements you get in graphics will be obvious to the market," said Michael Hara, senior vice president of investor relations and communications of NVIDIA.

According to NVIDIA, the short-term advantage that AMD has been enjoying so far will be overshadowed by the transition from purely graphics-oriented GPUs to units capable of parallel computing tasks. Granted, the advanced visual features of DirectX are not overlooked by the GPU maker, but the company is fully confident that Fermi will reclaim the market.

"This 60-day lag between these events of when our competition has DX11 and when we're coming to market will absolutely seem insignificant in the big picture," Hara stated. "We're almost there. In Q1, the world will get to see what we've done with Fermi."

Among the advanced capabilities offered by DirectX 11 (which was released along with Windows 7) are support for multi-core processors and DirectCompute that enable developers to fully utilize the parallel processing capabilities for graphics processors for operations such as video editing. DirectX 11 also supports tessallation allowing for the rendering of smoother curved surfaces.

"We go through revolutionary changes every three of four years, and that's exactly where we're at today. The next big evolution in the API world has come with DirectX 11 (DX11), but we believe that's a part of the experience," Hara added.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/dx11-only-a-short-term-advantage-says-nvidia/

 

[Trunks9486]

damage control anyone?

They were singing a different song when they were the first to market with DX10

 

[drunkenmaster]

My word, an Nvidia guy actually saying DX11 is the next big evolution? Rather than claiming its worthless, funny how as we get closer to their DX11 release, DX11 gets more important.

I also like their timeframe of claiming a 60 day lag. Its been 60 days already hasn't it, and they are anything up to another 120 days till Fermi is available properly.


THey are right however, DX11 is both a very important and large step, and that a few months, even 6 months isn't a huge deal. Though the sooner both companies have cards out the more game makers will push to optimise for DX11 which is useful.

The issue isn't DX11 or not, its that for 6 months AMD will have faster cards available and Nvidia have very little of anything available. Its hard to make a choice between which high end card to go for, DX11 or not, when Nvidia simply isn't selling them.

Got to give them credit for stopping the nonsense of pretending DX11 is worthless though.

 

[manbearpig]

they are just talking rubbish until there direct x 11 cards are out

 

[almighty15]

I wan't DX11 now, not later

 

[DAnDan]

I wan't DX11 now, not later

Buy ATI then. If you want it now, you have the choice to buy it... now.

 

[ejr22]

Terrific news

 

[Gerard]

Maybe they should stfu untill their new gear is actually on sale?

And im pretty sure its been more than a 60 day lag by now, more like 90+

 

[kylew]

Maybe they should stfu untill their new gear is actually on sale?

And im pretty sure its been more than a 60 day lag by now, more like 90+

In nVidia world, what they say is the gospel truth.

We all knew they'd be singing praises of DX11 as soon as they're ready to be "on board" with it, and not a moment sooner.

Now they're just beginning the marketing and hype stages of their "next gen" GPUs.

Either way, it's all BS until they have a working card out, ready to buy, and I can't see that being any time soon.

 

[Duran]

dx11 is irrelevant to the gaming industry and the same can be said for pc gaming as a whole.

 

[markiejt]

dx11 is irrelevant to the gaming industry and the same can be said for pc gaming as a whole.

very true... and anyone who rushes out to buy a £550 gpu for 1 game! is stupid.

DX 11 wont be that big really when all we really get are console ports (dx9)

the next big jump will be with then next gen consoles which you would imagine will be on DX12

 

[Martini1991]

very true... and anyone who rushes out to buy a £550 gpu for 1 game! is stupid.

DX 11 wont be that big really when all we really get are console ports (dx9)

the next big jump will be with then next gen consoles which you would imagine will be on DX12

Consoles don't use DX.
And the 360's over 4 years old.
I expect the new console to be announced this year or next year, DX11 will have only gotten bigger.

 

[mathwat]

very true... and anyone who rushes out to buy a £550 gpu for 1 game! is stupid.

DX 11 wont be that big really when all we really get are console ports (dx9)

the next big jump will be with then next gen consoles which you would imagine will be on DX12

And how long will it take nvidia to bring a card out for Directx 12?
they are always lagging behind like Dx10, Dx10.1, DX11.. plus they will be overpriced as per usual. Don't get me wrong the Ati cards now are overpriced but they have no competition.

math

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Consoles don't use DX.
And the 360's over 4 years old.
I expect the new console to be announced this year or next year, DX11 will have only gotten bigger.

Actually the 360 does (well a version of it). The name originally came from DirectXBox.
Either way consoles are limited by thier hardware to a fair extent, so if DirectX11 can help show PC as a viable format by offering things the consoles can't then that's a good thing for us as PC gamers, as it'll help developers justify producing exclusive pc games or pc games with added features/better graphics than the console versions.

 

[Hairybudda]

Actually the 360 does (well a version of it). The name originally came from DirectXBox.
Either way consoles are limited by thier hardware to a fair extent, so if DirectX11 can help show PC as a viable format by offering things the consoles can't then that's a good thing for us as PC gamers, as it'll help developers justify producing exclusive pc games or pc games with added features/better graphics than the console versions.

It's effectively DX9.0c wrapped in the case of the 360, and a modded version of 8.1 for the original xbox, and yeah the xbox name came from the fact it was a direct x box (original haha).

Consoles aren't the be all and end all of gaming, there is a larger market share sure however the PC gaming market has never been huge despite the massive influence the technology has had on console gaming. It'll keep driving console technology forwards, DX11 is important and it's vital developers get on board and start writing innovative software with it.

 

[Martini1991]

Actually the 360 does (well a version of it). The name originally came from DirectXBox.
Either way consoles are limited by thier hardware to a fair extent, so if DirectX11 can help show PC as a viable format by offering things the consoles can't then that's a good thing for us as PC gamers, as it'll help developers justify producing exclusive pc games or pc games with added features/better graphics than the console versions.

My point being is that it isn't DX9, I knew it was similar, but not not too much into it.

 

[Fred]

Buy ATI then. If you want it now, you have the choice to buy it... now.

Difficult to buy now, when the availability sucks

5970 availability 0 from 9 cards
5870 availability 0 from 10 cards
5850 availability 1 from 9 cards

 

[sturmtruppe]

Well, yeah considering there is like 1 dx11 title!

 

[markiejt]

And how long will it take nvidia to bring a card out for Directx 12?
they are always lagging behind like Dx10, Dx10.1, DX11.. plus they will be overpriced as per usual. Don't get me wrong the Ati cards now are overpriced but they have no competition.

math

really dont think anyone can say Nvidia are over priced after the whole ATI price are the moment

 

[Deleted member 76686]

really dont think anyone can say Nvidia are over priced after the whole ATI price are the moment

I think you tend to be mixing the two types of price, basically ATIs cards at the moment are epxensive because of market forces whereas NVs always tend to be expensive because they cost more to make thus only have so far they can drop.