Dyslexia

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You would probably seek more sympathy from some of the more aggressive posters if you did bother to learn to spell words like these. Niether of those are anything to do with dyslexia, you have spelt them foe-neh-tick-ah-lee.

I'm never jump down anyones throat for the occational bad spelling, but those two mistakes are based purely on laziness. If you want respect for your disorder, you can't let your standards drop completely.

For the record, I didn't notice the missing I from university until I re-read my own post.

actually i dont know how to spell chalange without right clicking on that word and using the spell checker. Univercity was a typo, although having just wrote that and it come up with a read line again i am puzzeled.

Like i said before, im not really using the spell checker in this. Other places i do. But i felt that posting perfect writing while claiming im badly dyslexic is shooting my self in the foot somewhat.

Though i must be honest, when i spell intelegance and things like that i ues a spell checker. I never spell that word right and it looks bad

 

[dirtydog]

There is more to life then spelling. I fail to see your problem with this. If i can look through an article and pick out key points, write an essay on it and manipulate it. That is English. a lot of people can't do this.

Spelling proves nothing, it has no baring on intelligence. The only people who say that are those that are only good at spelling in my experience.

Mathmatical dyslexia is another thing asw well. Getting numbers in the wrong orders must be terrible. Simple things like trying to find your room in a hotel.

I'm not saying that English is just about the mechanics of writing; you are right of course that it is also about what you say. But surely to God, correct spelling, punctuation and grammar should form a PART of the grade and you shouldn't be able to achieve the very highest grade of A* if you are weak in that area!

 

[Jono8]

actually i dont know how to spell chalange without right clicking on that word and using the spell checker. Univercity was a typo, although having just wrote that and it come up with a read line again i am puzzeled.

Like i said before, im not really using the spell checker in this. Other places i do. But i felt that posting perfect writing while claiming im badly dyslexic is shooting my self in the foot somewhat.

Though i must be honest, when i spell intelegance and things like that i ues a spell checker. I never spell that word right and it looks bad

Well, not knowing how to spell a word I just lazy then.

 

[Jono8]

I'm not saying that English is just about the mechanics of writing; you are right of course that it is also about what you say. But surely to God, correct spelling, punctuation and grammar should form a PART of the grade and you shouldn't be able to achieve the very highest grade of A* if you are weak in that area!

Ofcourse it is! In English language, correct spelling, punctuation and grammar are a big part of the criteria!

 

[Skull]

it really isnt. obviously u didnt do A level english


this is like saying maths is about how well you can do sums (it isnt btw)

I did do English A level and I wouldn't have got the (excellent) mark I got if I couldn't spell properly.

 

[Nitefly]

Univercity was a typo, although having just wrote that and it come up with a read line again i am puzzeled.

It's university

 

[MumboJumbo]

I'm not saying that English is just about the mechanics of writing; you are right of course that it is also about what you say. But surely to God, correct spelling, punctuation and grammar should form a PART of the grade and you shouldn't be able to achieve the very highest grade of A* if you are weak in that area!

I do agree with you, i feel an A should ahve been my cap for definite and to be honest with you. I went into that exam thinking no matter how good i am i will never beat a B or a C becuase of my spelling. Turns out there is something like 4 marks total on spelling/punctuation.

 

[AGD]

Please understand ive tryed very hard with spelling. Primary school is all about spelling. I had it beaten into me that i was thick and rubbish i got put in the lowest set for everything because i couldn't spell. Gramer is more to do with logic in my eyes its differnt.

Trying to spell correctly requires a lot of thought but at the end of the day you cant spell a word you don't know how to spell unless its spelt how it sounds. So many words i spell over and over again and get wrong every time and there are so many thousands of words that if you struggle that much you wont ever manage to spell many of them correctly.

The other problem with dyslexia is that i do know how to spell many words i get wrong. I get them wrong because for some reason what im thinking is not what comes out when im writing. My eye doctor person is one of the head people in the country, i got lucky she works localy to me, she explained that its a totaly differnt way the brain works. It cant be fixed or changed, it gives dyslexics a totaly differnt set of skills are the downside of being terribly flawed in others. Dysleixcs are naturaly a lot better at spacial things. Being an enginer for example (not the fake people, i mean people that go to uni and get a degree lol). a lot of enginers are dislexic for that reason.

My spelling is a lot better when typing i assure you of that too.

So you can't spell. On Firefox I have the English dictionary activated and it underlines any spelling errors in red so I can right click and correct them easily. Simple.

If there is a word which I have difficulty spelling I copy and paste it from someone else's posts. E.g. in this thread the word dyslexic has been misspelled about a billion times which could easily be avoided with a little effort. What I'm seeing is a distinct lack of effort - this is not aimed specifically at you 8igdave.

 

[zytok]

Higher level maths perhaps I can understand as you should be expected to know the basics from an earlier level. How advanced maths and imaginary numbers can hope to help anyone in day to day life I have no idea and it seems like a good excuse to spend 3-4 years getting wasted under the pretence of being clever.

Oh and BigDave, you're not really helping yourself mate tbh. You are trying to get some sympathy for the cause but then you come out and say that you cba to try on the forums as it's just a lazy casual place to hang out and chat. You say you spell things phonetically but a lot of your errors are evidently not based on this and as such you do come across as simply not caring.

Caring about what you post in order to make it easily readable to others is not about being up your own ass surely????

 

[Jono8]

I do agree with you, i feel an A should ahve been my cap for definite and to be honest with you. I went into that exam thinking no matter how good i am i will never beat a B or a C becuase of my spelling. Turns out there is something like 4 marks total on spelling/punctuation.

Not in Language. that's rubbish. You cannot get an A* in English LANGUAGE without good spelling, punctuation and grammar.

 

[kEn_sct]

I did do English A level and I wouldn't have got the (excellent) mark I got if I couldn't spell properly.

yes but you must agree english at a level isnt about spelling. You get no marks for spelling stuff corectly, but you do lose marks for spelling stuff incorectly.

so you could have a essay worth an A but have spelling mistakes and get a B

Just like in a level and above you get no marks for corectly add or multiplying numbers together you can only lose marks.

 

[MumboJumbo]

Well, not knowing how to spell a word I just lazy then.

Will it really make you so much happyer if I use captital I's from now on. Will it make any difference to if you can read or understand what im saying because if it does I think you have far worse english problems them me if a passage of text becomes impossible the moment you take captial I's out.

Like ive said before It's not punctuation that is my problem. It's just I don't feel the need to bother with it on a forum apart from when a comma can change the meaning entirely of a setence.

 

[dirtydog]

I do agree with you, i feel an A should ahve been my cap for definite and to be honest with you. I went into that exam thinking no matter how good i am i will never beat a B or a C becuase of my spelling. Turns out there is something like 4 marks total on spelling/punctuation.

Yeah obviously I am not blaming you for the grade you got, that is the fault of the examiners and/or the criteria they have been instructed to mark by.

 

[territt]

easy to say, you shouldn't have been given it and it was a waste of the taxpayers money.

I'm sorry but it's the same argument, I still can't see (and obviously never will) that some people should be given handouts for stuff that everyone else has to buy themselves. It is unfair to others and is reverse discrimination. If I were at uni and in masses of debt it would infuriate me that someone else on my course had been given a £1500 laptop and I'd had to buy one from my own student overdraft. There is no justification for a laptop this expensive, a £250 one from purple worlds spell checker would do exactly the same job!! It's just that someone has the authority to hand out freebies at no personal cost to themselves and thinks "it's not my money, let them have whatever they ask for".

A couple of years back i dont think there was any £250 laptops, and the diffrance in spec between a cheaper one and the one i got was a lot, but when you consider the software i was running it was needed.

 

[MumboJumbo]

Not in Language. that's rubbish. You cannot get an A* in English LANGUAGE without good spelling, punctuation and grammar.

Do you wish me to take a poicture of my cetificate.

 

[Jono8]

Will it really make you so much happyer if I use captital I's from now on. Will it make any difference to if you can read or understand what im saying because if it does I think you have far worse english problems them me if a passage of text becomes impossible the moment you take captial I's out.

Like ive said before It's not punctuation that is my problem. It's just I don't feel the need to bother with it on a forum apart from when a comma can change the meaning entirely of a setence.

No i don't care how you write on this forum. I don't bother that much to get things right here either

I was just referring to you saying that you don't know how to spell challenge. Which is just lazy.

 

[Jono8]

Do you wish me to take a poicture of my cetificate.

um..no

 

[dowie]

Just to highlight the pointlessness of giving certain people a label because their particular skill set falls within a vague category....

At the moment, millions of pounds alone are spent on the process of merely identifying children with dyslexia. There's no uniform test, and different psychologists have different ideas about which things to look at: but Elliott's view is that they're all a waste of time and money. "Some tests look at memory, some at sounds and words, some at visual processing," says Elliott. "The traditional route was to identify a child whose IQ was high, but whose reading level was low: that test is still being used in some places, although you could ask why look at a child's IQ when deciding if they need special reading help? But the bottom line is that experts can't agree precisely what set of problems make up the condition they call dyslexia: and if you can't agree on what a condition is, how on earth can you test for it?" Or to put it another way, as they do in the Dispatches programme: either every child with poor reading ability is dyslexic, or none of them is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/sep/07/schools.uk

The reality is Dyslexia only exists because we say it exists - Psychologist have chosen to classify certain people with a certain set of attributes as having a condition they've called 'Dyslexia' - the fact that the tests are not universal and the actual set of attributes that make up this condition can't even be agreed on just highlights the pointlessness of it all.

Giving free laptops and extra time to a select group of students is unfair. Devoting extra teaching resources in school towards everyone with say reading difficulties would be better (not just people who fit a certain category).

 

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So you can't spell. On Firefox I have the English dictionary activated and it underlines any spelling errors in red so I can right click and correct them easily. Simple.

If there is a word which I have difficulty spelling I copy and paste it from someone else's posts. E.g. in this thread the word dyslexic has been misspelled about a billion times which could easily be avoided with a little effort. What I'm seeing is a distinct lack of effort - this is not aimed specifically at you 8igdave.

Ive stated many times in this thread already that i gues you missed. I do use firefox. I have it installed right now, im seeing red lines all over the place. Im not using it because claiming im a very bad dyslexic and having perfect spelling is like shooting my self in the foot.

Its also showing what spelling as a dislexic is like, this is how i usualy spell. Infact when i am hand writing its about 3x as worse because muscel memory allows me to spell better then my brain actually can. Of course some of these mistake are just typos but i thin ktehy are obvious... like that one there lol.

 

[MumboJumbo]

Just to highlight the pointlessness of giving certain people a label because their particular skill set falls within a vague category....



http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/sep/07/schools.uk

The reality is Dyslexia only exists because we say it exists - Psychologist have chosen to classify certain people with a certain set of attributes as having a condition they've called 'Dyslexia' - the fact that the tests are not universal and the actual set of attributes that make up this condition can't even be agreed on just highlights the pointlessness of it all.

Giving free laptops and extra time to a select group of students is unfair. Devoting extra teaching resources in school towards everyone with say reading difficulties would be better (not just people who fit a certain category).

Im sorry but thats rubbish. I have to pay to prove im dyslexic. It costs around £200. So don't give me that.

You think we all get free laptops. Maybe you shouldget your factors straight. The only peoeple eligable for a free laptop are those so dislexic that when they write its all over the place and not possibel to read. Without a laptop they would fail all their academic studies becuase they cannot make notes. Litraly cannot.

Your twisting the truth because you don't know how it actually works.