Dyslexia

Hi Dave

I was diagnosed with dyslexia when I was about 9, reading, writing, spelling, maths I found very difficult until someone took notice and put me in for rigorous testing. Now 26 I'm just about fine with everything just takes me a little longer sometimes. Out of interest when you're reading do your eyes wonder or skip lines, this is something that still messes with me.
 
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O to those people that said that we get all these free stuff thrown at us and its unfair. My report is going to cost me £500. Further more they want me to do it again for the final year of uni as well.

Yeah and all im going to get is some book tokens, extra time and bigger print. But without the extra time and bigger print ill servearly under achieve. Its disgusting smokers and fat people get nhs free care but i have to pay up to £1000 to get an education.

O and another thing to those that say such disabilities dont exist. My alternating eyes can easily be proven. Put special glasses on me and I see things alternate colours.

My brother suffers from dyslexia, luckily my parents noticed from quite an early age whilst it was noticeable and got him the help he needed.

It doesn't affect his life significantly now, but he still gets financial help towards his university degree ( I can't blame him for accepting free hand outs because he's always been a hard worker and is on a seven year architecture course).

He freely admits that he doesn't deserve the help he recieves, but he feels the system is flawed. The reality of it is that dyslexia varies very greatly in severity and how it affects your life, but this isn't reflected in the way the government helps sufferers.

You might need those larger print books, but theres a significant amount of sufferers that really don't need the extra assistance and recieve it anyway.
 
Hi Dave

I was diagnosed with dyslexia when I was about 9, reading, writing, spelling I foud very difficult until someone took notice and put me in for rigorous testing. Now 26 I'm just about fine with everything just takes me a little longer sometimes. Out of interest when you're reading do your eyes wonder or skip lines, this is something that still messes with me.

yah i skip terribly becuse of my other eye problem where my eyes altinate. Put that with dyslexia and without large print i could miss several sentences at once under pressure (where my condition is amplify).

I wasn't diagnosed till year 10, they just treated me like some special kid who was in the top few in all his classes but couldn't read/write very well. Morons, why don't they have some sort of training on spotting children who clearly need help.

My brother suffers from dyslexia, luckily my parents noticed from quite an early age whilst it was noticeable and got him the help he needed.

It doesn't affect his life significantly now, but he still gets financial help towards his university degree ( I can't blame him for accepting free hand outs because he's always been a hard worker and is on a seven year architecture course).

He freely admits that he doesn't deserve the help he recieves, but he feels the system is flawed. The reality of it is that dyslexia varies very greatly in severity and how it affects your life, but this isn't reflected in the way the government helps sufferers.

You might need those larger print books, but theres a significant amount of sufferers that really don't need the extra assistance and recieve it anyway.

O i don't doubt its flawed, as are all benefit systems. But the point is im paying through my ass and then some more just to prove i need help. I could pay up to £1000 for a fair chance at an education at uni. Do they think im made of money? If we were like lower class i would never be able to get this done for uni really and then id be totaly stuffed.
 
I work in a learner services in a college local to me and she should able to request additional support in the class room by talking to her tutor.

Tbh it should have been picked up when she applied!:rolleyes:

R

The college she is at are uselss. She is going up there on tuesday to speak to the Principle before the year starts so she can get everything sorted out (hopefully)
 
O i don't doubt its flawed, as are all benefit systems. But the point is im paying through my ass and then some more just to prove i need help. I could pay up to £1000 for a fair chance at an education at uni. Do they think im made of money? If we were like lower class i would never be able to get this done for uni really and then id be totaly stuffed.

I guess your right about there being no perfect benefit systems, I hadn't considered it that way. It becomes a little more understandable that people dismiss a condition when people that have very mild cases are treated the way they are though.

Theres loads of things that cause people to struggle through uni though. My girlfriend recieves ~£2k a year in grants. Whereas my parents give me significantly less than that a year to survive on. I guess the system will always be compromises, and there's always those that will lose out.
 
Just to highlight the pointlessness of giving certain people a label because their particular skill set falls within a vague category....



http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/sep/07/schools.uk

The reality is Dyslexia only exists because we say it exists - Psychologist have chosen to classify certain people with a certain set of attributes as having a condition they've called 'Dyslexia' - the fact that the tests are not universal and the actual set of attributes that make up this condition can't even be agreed on just highlights the pointlessness of it all.

Giving free laptops and extra time to a select group of students is unfair. Devoting extra teaching resources in school towards everyone with say reading difficulties would be better (not just people who fit a certain category).


This is not totally wrong. Just about 99%.

Still, Elliott says, there is no greater abuse of the current diagnostic system than in the establishments of further and higher education, where the guidelines are much more open. “The disability lobby is so strong and the advantages, financial and otherwise, so great that they are diagnosing dyslexics all over the place,” he says. “At universities students can get laptops, extra books and other equipment, sometimes to the value of almost £10,000 each. It’s a very problematic area.”

Some students, he says, are milking the situation for what it’s worth. “They ask for different coloured exam papers, extra photocopying, anything they can get. And the numbers of people who do this are just growing. If you are giving special needs provision without any particular criteria, it is obviously going to proliferate.”

While no precise figure is available for the amount ploughed into helping dyslexics at colleges and universities, it is estimated to be around £50 million. It is leaving the teaching profession disgruntled. One lecturer at a university in the South East of England, who wishes to remain anonymous, despairs at the increasing number of students who claim to be dyslexic.

“On one degree course I teach, about one quarter of the year get extra time in exams, extra help with their course work and other assistance because they have this label,” she says. “You become quite cynical. Dyslexia was virtually unheard of when I was a student. Now every other person has it.”

Another university lecturer, based in Sheffield, describes the situation as “laughable”. He says: “There are obviously a few who genuinely have a problem, but the majority seem to be jumping on the bandwagon for any extra time and help they can get and there is nothing we can do to stop it.”

Its happening..get over it.

Elliott is a bit of a joke within academic circles. Especially those dealing with Dyslexia. I work as a psychologist with specific interest in Dyslexia, and to be honest most of his work is sensationalist nonsense. I'm not getting into the debate regarding government handouts, but Dyslexia does exist, is quantifiable, and, while perhaps over-diagnosed, is a real issue.
 
O to those people that said that we get all these free stuff thrown at us and its unfair. My report is going to cost me £500. Further more they want me to do it again for the final year of uni as well.

Yeah and all im going to get is some book tokens, extra time and bigger print. But without the extra time and bigger print ill servearly under achieve. Its disgusting smokers and fat people get nhs free care but i have to pay up to £1000 to get an education.

O and another thing to those that say such disabilities dont exist. My alternating eyes can easily be proven. Put special glasses on me and I see things alternate colours.

I don't think pleading poverty washes when you can evidently afford £300 graphics cards and the like :)
 
I don't think pleading poverty washes when you can evidently afford £300 graphics cards and the like :)

I don't think medical conditions are subject only to the more wealthy. I would imagine there are many underachieving as a result of not having the funds to get the reports required, yet fat people and smokers get free care off the nhs. At least I didn't cause these problems for my self unlike them. Further more buying a £300 graphics card a year ago doesn't mean i have £1000 spare to spend just before uni does it. Money is in fact quite tight in the family at the moment after just having the kitchen done as well.
 
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Whilst I freely accept that some people suffer from dyslexia, I don't quite see why you need to harp on about it and the related money issues. In fact, your doing so makes me believe you're trying to convince yourself, more than anyone else, that you deserve all that's coming to you.

You've spent some money and someone's given you a certificate saying you're dyslexic. We get it. You're going to get some help at University, we get it. You're doing maths, we get it. Whether your problems are such that you rightly deserve extra help/time in exams/tuition/book tokens etc, only you will know.

Having read your posts, I'm almost preparing myself for when you have a bad exam and feel the need to post "I misread the question - will they upgrade my 2:2 to a 1st?". Don't go over the top - you have trouble reading, and you're going to be given help - that's it. Luckily, you'll be studying a subject (mathematics) which isn't at all interested in how good your spelling and grammar is, so life isn't all bad. Pull up your socks, and deal with the situation.

By-the-by: when trying to project a position of poverty, the story "we've just had a new kitchen, so we're short on cash" isn't a world-beater if you're hoping for people to sympathise.
 
Whilst I freely accept that some people suffer from dyslexia, I don't quite see why you need to harp on about it and the related money issues. In fact, your doing so makes me believe you're trying to convince yourself, more than anyone else, that you deserve all that's coming to you.

You've spent some money and someone's given you a certificate saying you're dyslexic. We get it. You're going to get some help at University, we get it. You're doing maths, we get it. Whether your problems are such that you rightly deserve extra help/time in exams/tuition/book tokens etc, only you will know.

Having read your posts, I'm almost preparing myself for when you have a bad exam and feel the need to post "I misread the question - will they upgrade my 2:2 to a 1st?". Don't go over the top - you have trouble reading, and you're going to be given help - that's it. Luckily, you'll be studying a subject (mathematics) which isn't at all interested in how good your spelling and grammar is, so life isn't all bad. Pull up your socks, and deal with the situation.

As i pointed out a few posts ago my main eye problem is not dyslexia and is fully proverble by the fact that with certain glasses my eyes can clearly be shown they altinate because the room will keep switching colours. So if you want to argue the existence of that i think you'll find you'll fall on your face.

That is the reason i skip lines, not dyslexia and as a result was a perfectly understandable reason i miss read the question. Or do you wish me to fail my exams because my eyes skipped a line of passage and i had no control over it? Under a pressure of an exam it is very bad. Hense why i have a3 exam papers. Dyslexia means i read words wrong sometimes and spell them wrong which when coupled with my other problem makes for very bad spelling/reading.

The reason im pointing out the money thing is becuase if you'd read this thread you would see many people where harping on about how much money is spent on us and how much "Give outs" we get. When the truth is ive paid out far more then anything ill get back because all ill get back which is worth money is some book tokens to get bigger print books.

So don't presume you know anything about my situation because as you just clearly represented. You dont have a clue.

By-the-by: when trying to project a position of poverty, the story "we've just had a new kitchen, so we're short on cash" isn't a world-beater if you're hoping for people to sympathise.

Never said we didn't have the money to pay for it. Simply pointing out i shouldn't have to and anyone with less money simply can't afford it. Being in the higher end of the middle class bracket means we get royally screwed when it comes to uni hand outs anyway as it is. Trying to point out how incredibly flawed it is.
 
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I don't think you took much notice of my post, and jumped straight into defensive mode. Again, you give another post attempting to convince me (or you) that you have a disability. Fine - as I said, we all get it. I certainly didn't suggest you don't have some sort of reading problem. And pipe down a little.

I'm afraid your final remarks don't make any awful lot of sense. Someone called you up on "pleading poverty", to which you responded with "we've just had the kitchen done, so not much cash to spare" (I'm paraphrasing, of course). I pointed out that this was stupid.

To reiterate: I don't doubt the existence of dyslexia. I don't doubt that you have reading difficulties. But please stop harping on about it - only you know if your symptoms deserve the handouts/extra help/extra time you'll be given. Please stop attempting to convince everyone!!
 
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer shloud be in the rghit pclae. The rset can
be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef,
but the wrod as a wlohe.

Amzanig huh?
 
What were the lessons?

Went and was tested by this chap when i was 15

http://www.octaviusrossassociates.co.uk/

General word patterns

Shape

Visual Lettering, making me draw the letter B in the Air, then making me draw the letter D on paper, then vice vera.

What did surprise me was the other tests he did, one i enjoyed was "word understanding"

He would say a word, the tell me it in a sentence, i would then have to give him my understnading of the word.

Started at a very low level (in this bracket would be words that a 10 year old would understand)

I.E: "Split" - "I spit the banna"

I would reply; Split is to separate

He would then go further up the scale of answers

At 15 i had the chronological age that a Well Educated 45Year old would have at understanding words.

I did allot of pages of reading things like this

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer shloud be in the rghit pclae. The rset can
be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef,
but the wrod as a wlohe.
 
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I don't think medical conditions are subject only to the more wealthy. I would imagine there are many underachieving as a result of not having the funds to get the reports required, yet fat people and smokers get free care off the nhs. At least I didn't cause these problems for my self unlike them. Further more buying a £300 graphics card a year ago .

Did the GTX 285 OC come out in August 2008? I thought it came out about six months ago.
 
Well i was classed as having borderline dyslexia a few years ago, with simple lessons i was corrected and am no longer dyslexic.

I'm happy that you're cured, but you didn't have Dyslexia (as there's no such thing as 'borderline'). If you did have Dyslexia, 'simple lessons' would not suffice to correct all your literacy problems.
 
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