E4300 vs E6300

[Big.Wayne]

have you tried upping chipset voltage? and how good is your cooling....when running orthos mine reached 65...although day to day use i have not seen it any higher than 58...my vcore is set @ 1.475 in bios and chipsets upped to 0.25...ram timings 5-5-5-15 with a fan strapped to them

cheers, didn't see that post, that helps thanks!

What happens when u hit 500MHz-FSB?

 

[eXor]

What happens when u hit 500MHz-FSB?

You get a gold watch.

 

[vocch]

cheers, didn't see that post, that helps thanks!

What happens when u hit 500MHz-FSB?

No prob's....Will bench for a while...and then will either freeze/restart and adding more v's don't make a difference.

@ eXor...LOL

 

[Angilion]

can anyone tell me now, if i were to build a new system what would be better, an e4300 or an e6300? i will probably be overclocking.

Probably a 4300. Stress on probably and only if you do overclock.

4300 has up to 9x multiplier, 6300 has up to 7x multiplier. So with a 6300 you are more likely to hit the motherboard FSB limit before hitting the CPU clock speed limit than you are with a 4300.

It's by no means certain and to a large extent it depends on what motherboard you get. On one that tolerates a very high FSB, the difference in max overclock on the two CPUs would be smaller or non-existent, but on a motherboard with a relatively low FSB limit, the 4300 would probably be much better.

That's on top of the expected variations in max overclock between individual CPUS, of course.

 

[Buffalo2102]

No prob's....Will bench for a while...and then will either freeze/restart and adding more v's don't make a difference.

@ eXor...LOL

I have 3.4GHz stable (13 hours Orthos) also - at stock volts. I tried raising vcore, vdimm and chipset voltages but I haven't had any luck getting past 3.4GHz. 7x486 is rock solid for me, but anything higher falls over with Orthos. Still, I am perfectly happy with a 83% overclock!

Temps are 54 at full load.

 

[paniK]

thats an amazing overclock! i'd like to know more about these benchmark things peopel on here are going on about. What is their purpose and how do they aid overclocking? What do they do? From what I can see its some sort of test to see how well your CPU is working and its stability... sorry if this is a totally n00b style question, but I am a n00b to most of this

 

[Big.Wayne]

will either freeze/restart and adding more v's don't make a difference

yup I been having that horrible 'freeze', its the pits!

I have 3.4GHz stable (13 hours Orthos). 7x486 is rock solid for me, but anything higher falls over with Orthos

Funnily enough I am at 486MHz-FSB right now, although I have dropped the e6300's multi down to 6 (instead of 7) giving 6x486= 2.9GHz. Didn't manage to unlease the x7 multi yet but I'm getting there slowly, kinda testing the fsb/mobo at the moment then I can get back to seeing where the cpu tops out!

Just passed 5 hours under dual prime95 Small FFTs which is good, I had all the voltages (mem/fsb/nb/sb) on the minimum but at 6x486 it would 'freeze' after one hour in dual-prime. Just upped the nb/sb volts up one each (from minimum) and that problem has gone (hopefully!!).

Volts currently are 1.4vCore in BIOS (1.35vCore actual under load!)

 

[vocch]

I have 3.4GHz stable (13 hours Orthos) also - at stock volts. I tried raising vcore, vdimm and chipset voltages but I haven't had any luck getting past 3.4GHz. 7x486 is rock solid for me, but anything higher falls over with Orthos. Still, I am perfectly happy with a 83% overclock!

Temps are 54 at full load.

Very nice m8....with mine i know it's my chip's limit at 500fsb will not go 1mhz over....but with my old E6600 got up to 510fsb same board and ram.... here's a pic of 510fsb.

 

[Buffalo2102]

Heh, thanks vocch. Good to know that I could possibly get higher but, as I said, I am happy with 3.4GHz at the moment. When I fancy another upgrade I might try and push it further - I won't mind frying it then!

 

[Buffalo2102]

thats an amazing overclock! i'd like to know more about these benchmark things peopel on here are going on about. What is their purpose and how do they aid overclocking? What do they do? From what I can see its some sort of test to see how well your CPU is working and its stability... sorry if this is a totally n00b style question, but I am a n00b to most of this

When you overclock, you push the components beyond the "safe" limits set by the manufacturer. This can cause the system to error, heat up and, ultimately to fail. Therefore, we use certain applications to ensure that any overclock we apply is stable and not heating things up too much.

To check on the actual overclock settings, voltages, memory etc. CPU-Z is a useful application.

To check on temperatures, TAT or Coretemp are generally used.

At the same time, to prove stability, Orthos or Prime95 can be run - these apps make the CPU and memory work hard and prove that the system is stable under load. This is when the system gets to its highest temperatures so this is when you need to monitor temperatures closely.

SuperPi is just a benchmark app that shows how fast your rig can number-crunch.

There are plenty of other apps that can be useful to prove an overclock but the ones above are what I use and seem to be the most popular.

 

[paniK]

thanks