EA - We Can Do Better

[spudbynight]

Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.

Number of games in my Steam library - 163
Number of games in my Origin library - 5
Number of games in my Origin library originally purchased on Steam - 3
Number of games in my Origin library purchased on Origin - 0

 

[Musty Pie]

I don't know why they do any votes on the internet tbh, they're all rigged by the fools on 4chan and the like that have nothing better to do

Agreed.

EA are not a "terrible" company. Otherwise they would have not achieved what they have to get to where they are today.

Yes they have made some mistakes, but again ALL big companies (and small ones) do.

I for one commend him for defending some of the pointless reasons why they have been voted the worst company. If I was in his position I would have done the same.

 

[Tombo]

You too can ignore any real reason's and criticism and hide behind a small number of complaints, yay!

 

[Gimpymoo]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/19680/

What you're saying is that almost all EA games are available on Steam and just a few are no longer purchasable. That doesn't mean the current customers can't download or play them.

Dragon Age 2 and Crysis 2 were removed from Steam Store due to the controversy of their new DLC model.

I meant to say "They kind of already did it although they did NOT retroactively remove ALL prior releases.

Alice: Madness returns never even made it to Steam and that had nothing to do with DLC. It is their choice where they sell their games. If they do not want to sell on the platform most gamers prefer, they have some terrible management in my opinion.

EA are not a "terrible" company.

You are entitled to your opinion but it is not one I share.

Yes they have made some mistakes, but again ALL big companies (and small ones) do.

Good companies will rectify such problems, "Terrible" ones do not.

I for one commend him for defending some of the pointless reasons why they have been voted the worst company. If I was in his position I would have done the same.

The reasons Peter Moore mentions in his post are NOT the main reasons why people dislike Electronic Arts. He mentions those as they are easily defendable to people like yourself and make the less informed gamers think "the internet community sure are stupid, I love E.A".

Their bigger problems are indefensible and as such, he would never mention them in a public forum.

 

[DrToffnar]

Agreed.

EA are not a "terrible" company. Otherwise they would have not achieved what they have to get to where they are today.

Yes they have made some mistakes, but again ALL big companies (and small ones) do.

I for one commend him for defending some of the pointless reasons why they have been voted the worst company. If I was in his position I would have done the same.

Just because a company is succesful doesn't mean it is morally well endowed. That's a ridiculous statement. Ofcourse there are pointless reasons as to why there being voted for, but there are also entirely valid ones.
Sure, they're not the worst company in America, but one of the most hated certainly and rightly so!

 

[DrToffnar]

"Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong."

You've got to laugh at such a ridiculous comment. You may have to sign up to Steam to register certain products, but it doesnt strangle hold it's content to ransom like Origin does and then demand you to remain online to play it.

 

[DrToffnar]

Oops... double xD

 

[Musty Pie]

You are entitled to your opinion but it is not one I share.

That is, and always will be, the basis of an opinion. Everyone is allowed one and we don't all have to agree.

I think a few people have misunderstood where I am coming from. I never said I agree with the mistakes they have made as a company. I am only commending him for stepping up to face all the haters and pointless trolls who have no idea about their company.

Whilst they HAVE made bigger mistakes in the past, which in turn have made them a hated company, you must agree that there also exists a trend to hate EA, because most people do.

Many people who criticise the company do not actually understand the bigger picture as a whole.

EA have done some terrible things in the past, there is no arguing that fact. But they have also produced and help produce some very interesting and successful changes to this generations games.

I am not going to sit in this thread and argue the toss that my opinion is right. No opinion can be right. Only pointing out that I found his "come at me bro" speech rather impressive given the circumstances.

 

[Musty Pie]

oops double post

 

[Gimpymoo]

Your are right Musty that there is a "bandwagon" and some have jumped on not knowing all the facts while others were already on the stagecoach which left town years ago.

To those familiar with their history, I think his little speech was more troll like than anything as he purposely chose to ignore the major criticisms of the company and cherry picked the "problems" the mainstream would relate to thus placating them for the most part.

The sad reality is that "core" gamers are very much outnumbered and as long as they can placate everyone else with their PR and such, it will be business as usual which is the message I read from the message by Peter Moore.

 

[Musty Pie]

Your are right Musty that there is a "bandwagon" and some have jumped on not knowing all the facts while others were already on the stagecoach which left town years ago.

To those familiar with their history, I think his little speech was more troll like than anything as he purposely chose to ignore the major criticisms of the company and cherry picked the "problems" the mainstream would relate to thus placating them for the most part.

The sad reality is that "core" gamers are very much outnumbered and as long as they can placate everyone else with their PR and such, it will be business as usual which is the message I read from the message by Peter Moore.

And you are probably going to be right.

I do not see EA drastically changing over night. In reality no large company can. However, regardless of how they conduct their business moving forward there is no arguing that they will continue to be successful.

 

[Defiant306]

I kind of think this part: "Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong."

Is a pointless statement as people were forced to register for an Origin account to play most of their major titles. I would be more interested in their sales figures each year for a proper show of health for their platform.

I have to admit I was disappointed when Ubisoft and EA made these platforms as I liked having all my games under one platform.

 

[Scougar]

Steam led the way and got people into digital downloads instead of physical copies. It is no surprise Origin has so many registrants... given steam really paved the way (especially given the popularity of their titles thanks to massive buy-outs of so many other companies).

 

[Venares]

Two reasons why Origin has 45 million accounts:

Mass Effect 3
Battlefield 3

They basicly took two incredibly populaur established franchises and held them to ransom

 

[RDM]

Surely if EA is such a terrible company with such terrible business practices then the easiest and most effective way to show your disdain is to stop buying their products? It isn't like the are supplying something we have to have after all!

 

[Narj]

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Number of games in my Steam library - 68
Number of games in my Origin library - 2
Number of games in my Origin library originally purchased on Steam - 1
Number of games in my Origin library purchased on Origin - 1

ME3 - no choice... Ransom is the right word.

 

[Adsta]

Surely if EA is such a terrible company with such terrible business practices then the easiest and most effective way to show your disdain is to stop buying their products? It isn't like the are supplying something we have to have after all!

It's not possible though. Well ok it is if you are really really really hate EA. But they own some of the best IP's out there.

Mass effect as mentioned is a great example of that. The first game (apart from the PS3 version which was released at a much later date) had nothing to do with EA. The 2nd and 3rd (which arguably are not as good as the first in my opinion) are published by EA. So after playing the first, really enjoyed the story the lore etc... it is natural to want to play the sequels. Regardless of which publisher er publishes it.

Fifa is also a good example. There is one other competitor PES and well... (again in my opinion) PES is awful. So if you want to play a football game you don't have much choice.

Because of this, the people who just don't purchase EA titles are the extreme minority and well just end up missing on the good games EA do release. Mirror's edge for instance.

 

[DrToffnar]

It's not possible though. Well ok it is if you are really really really hate EA. But they own some of the best IP's out there.

Mass effect as mentioned is a great example of that. The first game (apart from the PS3 version which was released at a much later date) had nothing to do with EA. The 2nd and 3rd (which arguably are not as good as the first in my opinion) are published by EA. So after playing the first, really enjoyed the story the lore etc... it is natural to want to play the sequels. Regardless of which publisher er publishes it.

Fifa is also a good example. There is one other competitor PES and well... (again in my opinion) PES is awful. So if you want to play a football game you don't have much choice.

Because of this, the people who just don't purchase EA titles are the extreme minority and well just end up missing on the good games EA do release. Mirror's edge for instance.

Agreed. If I dont enjoy a game I want it to be because I was let down by the devs, not by the publishers preventing me from playing a game I invested £40 in. People should never be punished for having faith in a product.

And besides, boycotting doesn't work. Moaning and whining does. That's just a fact after the ME3 fiasco.

 

[RDM]

It's not possible though. Well ok it is if you are really really really hate EA. But they own some of the best IP's out there.

In that case you are just going to have to accept that you are in part responsible for a company you profess to hate. If I disliked a company enough to twice in a row vote it the worst company in the US I wouldn't support them with my money.

In fact the recent SimCity debacle has seen me do exactly that. The only people really getting burnt are those that absolutely must have the game on release. Otherwise you can make a fairly informed decision on whether to purchase a game or not. If you still buy a game despite multiple reports as to how broken or limited it is then I have very little sympathy.

 

[Venares]

The problem is they are pretty much the only game in town now.
All the small publishers either got eaten up or went bust.

To put it another way, I HATE BT with a firey passion but I still have to use them because there is nowhere else to go.