In the event of an outbreak we should just head to Madagascar that place never gets infected
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Ebola scaremongering?
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In the event of an outbreak we should just head to Madagascar that place never gets infected
Kimbie
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It's the largest outbreak in history
The risk to us is negligible though, as Ebola is primarily transmitted through body fluids. If there were some UK cases, they would be easy enough to isolate. I certainly don't forsee this becoming a big issue.
COBRA meeting being held, so obviously our government are concerned. COBRA stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A, and is where the members of the cabinet and senior civil servants meet in emergency situations e.g. terrorist attacks.
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So it was a hit and run post then? Actually, do you not believe any of your 'CT' threads then? Are they all just hit and runs?
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You hope!It's the largest outbreak in history
The risk to us is negligible though, as Ebola is primarily transmitted through body fluids. If there were some UK cases, they would be easy enough to isolate. I certainly don't forsee this becoming a big issue.
"Its airborne! "
In the event of an outbreak we should just head to Madagascar that place never gets infected
Kimbie
They're probably considering closing the boarders already.
That is of course your choice.
So what was your opinion then. You said you were waiting for people to ask and I did.
You hope!
"Its airborne! "
It's not airborne, it's passed by bodily fluids.
In the first page an article was linked showing this study;
http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html
It's an interesting read. Admittedly I had to google a fair few terms to be able to read it properly.
Weirdly though there only appears to be this single study. However I haven't seen it refuted yet.
I think what you want to differentiate here is the difference between theoretical aerosol transmission in laboratory conditions and actual airborne transmission in the real world environment.
If you remember earlier I was talking about infective load eg how much stuff do you have to take in before you become ill. Now theoretically if you have loads of pigs in close proximity to a load of pigs in a perfect cross infection situation then strangely enough you will see cross infection - the exposure to numerous viruses will be exaggerated. However, this is far removed from say the spread if a more hardy and obviously airborne pathogen such as influenza. We have no real good evidence to say ebola is airborne although we do know it is entirely possible. However, that does not then mean we have something that then spreads as efficiently as say the common cold. Of course if one were a nasty james bond villain type they could attempt to replicate such a laboratory environment in the real world where people remain in close proximity for a period of time.
If you remember earlier I was talking about infective load eg how much stuff do you have to take in before you become ill. Now theoretically if you have loads of pigs in close proximity to a load of pigs in a perfect cross infection situation then strangely enough you will see cross infection - the exposure to numerous viruses will be exaggerated. However, this is far removed from say the spread if a more hardy and obviously airborne pathogen such as influenza. We have no real good evidence to say ebola is airborne although we do know it is entirely possible. However, that does not then mean we have something that then spreads as efficiently as say the common cold. Of course if one were a nasty james bond villain type they could attempt to replicate such a laboratory environment in the real world where people remain in close proximity for a period of time.
Indeed I neglected to add that point my apologies.
Out of pure interest re transmission via contact with bodily fluids would that include for example sneezing/coughing with the amount of saliva projected forward? Or is that as you say included in the too low concentrate to cause issue?
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No need to apologise! I think there would be a few factors at play there. My understanding is that virus is found in saliva in the early stages independent of any contamination, from blood, due to broken down tissue. The virus is unhardy so my guess, and I believe the indications are, that the salivary enzymes would deactivate it. Therefore, I would draw the conclusion that if you were walking past someone who was sneezing the chance would be minimal, if the directly sneezed onto your mucous membranes or broken skin then infection would be possible, and if you were say kissing that person then infection would be likely. Of course if someone did have blood contamination (very possible from coughing) then the risk is increased. Face masks would have course negate this if changed regularly.
Brilliant thank you for the explanation.
Not that I'm expecting it to be a relevant thing to know in the near future was just satisfying my curiosity(google is useless sometimes).
I do love these forums always someone's brain to pick when other sources fail you
thank you for the explanation. Not that I'm expecting it to be a relevant thing to know in the near future was just satisfying my curiosity(google is useless sometimes).
I do love these forums always someone's brain to pick when other sources fail you
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I think the MSF are incredibly brave people and are fantastic examples of how incredible us human beings can be.
I hope they're able to minimise the spread and minimise the suffering that those poor people are going through.
I hope they're able to minimise the spread and minimise the suffering that those poor people are going through.