EDL in Birmingham

bitslice · 20 Jul 2013 at 16:05

Redz said:
an anachronistic, misogynistic and totalitarian political belief dressed up as a religion are not integrating with society

But that's racist :eek:

There is nothing anachronistic, misogynistic or totalitarian going on here :confused:

Just a typical day out at the beach.

EDL or Middle Eastern peasant, they still have their view of the world and what is right, but I don't see the point in mixing the two groups and hoping they will get along because they won't. It's not something that education would change either.

Duke · 20 Jul 2013 at 16:08

You can pick someone like that from any protest, it makes for good tv

Twirlywoos · 20 Jul 2013 at 16:08

Can we have an official bash the EDL thread without having it locked or having members deflect things towards the Muslims?

Freddie1980 · 20 Jul 2013 at 16:31

Is shaving your head a prerequisite to E.D.L membership?

twist3d0n3 · 20 Jul 2013 at 16:32

satanicguardian said:
My IQ is 184 thank you very much

err... right

PooBrain · 20 Jul 2013 at 17:00

Lets hope more UAF are arrested then. Especially those wrapped up in taliban flags.

ince · 20 Jul 2013 at 17:27

anywhere showing live updates

Pawnless Endgame · 20 Jul 2013 at 18:44

I only knew the auto-tuned version, so it's interesting (and just as silly) to see the original lol

chulainn · 20 Jul 2013 at 19:42

satanicguardian said:
Exactly, there's an immigrant family living next to me, they have a brand new VW people carrier, about 6 kids and they never seem to work, they are always at home with their bloody children screaming and running around in their garden, lobbing toys and footballs into my garden

Get off ma property! if it hadn't been for you meddling kids(Husky voice shotgun in hand)

SlyReaper · 20 Jul 2013 at 19:46

satanicguardian said:
...an IQ with less digits than he has fingers.

You realise a 9 digit IQ is incredibly intelligent, right? The most intelligent people on this planet have 3 digit IQs. A 9 digit IQ (that is, an IQ measured in the hundreds of millions) is so high that it would regard the rest of us the same way we regard ants.

[DOD]Asprilla · 20 Jul 2013 at 19:56

satanicguardian said:
Hmm, I don't know to be honest, I don't pretend to be any political and humanist genius, but the amount of immigration that's happening is kinda crazy - it annoys me the amount of support that they get too, sure they are seeking asylum, but I know many of these immigrants (in person) that are getting one hell of a lot from benefits, whereas my own father (in his 50s with severe epilepsy) gets **** all from benefits. Apparently, "he has been epileptic too long", and the government no longer deem it fit to supply DLA (disability living allowance) and because of this I have to pay over half my monthly wage to my parents so they don't have to live on the streets. It's not a racism thing, it's an ethics thing - why should people who were born in this country struggle, whilst immigrants get stuff handed to them on a plate, silver spoon in hand.

This isn't a racist comment either, I'm a firm believer in freedom for all and equality. I understand that 99% of the UK's immigrants work incredibly hard, as I do - but just because they're seeking asylum, should they just get so much handed to them, whilst the people that have toiled and sweated their way to surviving (like my father) get discounted in benefits... argh it's tricky subject and infuriates me.

Please do not take this up as a racist post, because it's not and I am far from racist, it' just the ethics of how the British government are dealing with situations such as this.

Meh.

So your issue is with the benefits system rather than the immigrants?

Fluke? · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:20

I think the thing that probably irks most people no matter what your political persuasion is the perception that people are coming into the country purely to sponge from the state.
Trouble is, let’s say *some of the press* pander to people’s fears and ramp it up so much to sell more copies, so all of us lot see is apparently waves upon waves of Jihadist Sharia Law Muslim extremists and/or Lebanese-loop toting Eastern European spongers/NHS tourists entering the country and taking us for mugs. And Mr Cameron bending over....
Yes there probably plenty of the above and I'm sure pretty much everyone hates them as well as most other immigrants for painting such a negative stereotype. As the OP points out the vast majority of peeps coming over here do so for sound reasons and it’s just such a shame that the common perception is so different.
Good point about its about ethics not ethnics too.

Efour · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:27

Scapegoats just like the German Jews in the 30s....

Unite the mentally retarded behind fascist propaganda.

Redz · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:37

Efour said:
Scapegoats just like the German Jews in the 30s....

Unite the mentally retarded behind fascist propaganda.

I was considering posting something along those lines myself. My first post in this thread was in jest, but imagine if an EDL or BNP leader did come along who was intelligent, articulate and understood group psychology enough to manipulate a crowd.

elmarko · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:44

Efour said:
Scapegoats just like the German Jews in the 30s....

Unite the mentally retarded behind fascist propaganda.

Yup.

It's sad how people never learn.

deuse · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:46

Redz said:
I was considering posting something along those lines myself. My first post in this thread was in jest, but imagine if an EDL or BNP leader did come along who was intelligent, articulate and understood group psychology enough to manipulate a crowd.

You mean like the black shirts?

Redz · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:47

elmarko said:
It's sad how people never learn.

True. We Should send 'em back.

Redz · 20 Jul 2013 at 20:49

deuse said:
You mean like the black shirts?

I used to work with this old guy whose dad was a member of Oswald Mosley's blackshirts.

not that has anything to do with the discussion, just thought I'd share.

Alpherah · 20 Jul 2013 at 21:00

A friend of mine was in Birmingham today and got caught up in all of this, at one point he (and a few others) got stuck on a bridge with EDL on one side and UAF on the other with police in the middle trying to protect the public who got caught out.
The EDL pelted the press and police with bottles (some glass), bricks and even shoes at one point.
A few shops got smashed up a bit and there was some damage to the new library, racist chants were used and every muslim who passed the area was abused pretty much.

Nice people .. cough.

bitslice · 20 Jul 2013 at 21:03

Efour said:
Scapegoats just like the German Jews in the 30s....

Unite the mentally retarded behind fascist propaganda.

The two groups are not comparable in their political situations, pre war Jews controlled large parts of German industry and commerce, also most of the press and arts (something which oddly annoyed Hitler the most). Jews were in fact disliked over much of Europe, not just in Germany. This was only a problem in Germany because their economy was being crippled by the victors of WWI

UK Muslims are picked upon because of the vocal 0.01% of Islamists, and the continued suspicion/reality that large parts of that community secretly support such views. That and their backward culture does not fit well into any Western country and instead they continue to push their own culture instead. An attitude not shared by any other racial/ethnic/religious group which is why they appear to be singled out all the time.

Both Jews and Muslims seek to displace other cultures, the Jews are just vastly more successful because they are not intent on pushing their religion in your face, in fact they do the exact opposite, they don't want anyone else to be a Jew. Islamists are just the dumber contemporaries of EDL in comparison.