Yeah overall I was disappointed. Kamikaze was far from his best work but I was bumping that album for weeks. On this album there are 3 standout tracks and even then I wonder if they're just standout because the rest of the album is weak.
Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By
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Dre and Ruben with Exec producers on MMLP2 and Revival and Dre was also involved with Kamikaze.
I am surprised you think Kanye is the 2nd worst rapper you've ever heard.
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Kanye and Jay Z are toss. 
I didn't finish the album before deleting it.Yeah this is pap. Not a single decent tune to be had. It's all so boring.
Kanye and Jay Z are toss.
I can understand not liking Kanye... But to say Jay Z is toss is absolute nonsense. Take his entire body of work and he bodies everyone else's career. I say this as someone who preferred Nas to Jay. He is the benchmark there is no one as consistent as him. His flow, his double or triple entendres, beat selection and growth as a person/artist (as I said 4:44 is a grown man rapping about grown man stuff. Not trying to keep up with the kids. What development has Eminem shown?) there is no way you can realistically name 5 rappers better than him with a career length that he has had.
I can still listen to some of his older songs, pull up RapGenius and find bits I've never noticed. Sure he took a massive L when Nas released Ether, probably with Kingdom Come and of course when Em beat him on his own track with Renegade but other than those times. He has always been up there. He's not my favourite rapper and nor does he have my favourite verses (Inspectah Deck: Triumph or Biggie Smalls: Victory) but you just can't deny him.
He did have some very clever word play on it. It's only been out a week or so, so i really need to give it more time to really judge. Heard it twice so far though.
I just think the hardest verse on the whole album was by Black Thought
I just think the hardest verse on the whole album was by Black Thought
Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol1 are two of the best rap albums ever. Early Jay Z was brilliant. Never been much of a fan of Kanye howeverKanye and Jay Z are toss.
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Find Jay Z slow and boring also the tune/beats are usually crap. Just not my kind of rapper.
Who are your kind of rappers?
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Guess its more older stuff really.
From my "Stuff" spotify playlist there is mostly the following.
Earlier Eminem, up to maybe the Eminem Show though there are a few good tracks after.
Wu tang clan/all the individuals
Dre
Earlier Snoop
Cypress hill
Some of the gangster stuff from the late 80's/90's, NWA etc
Bit of Nas
Some Biggy and Tupac
Little bit of Young MC
Couple of DMX tracks
Not so much the verbal skills, as some I dont like are excellent in that regard but its the tunes/beats I dont really like, find myself listening to modern grime more than modern rap.
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It seems Eminem long abandoned the type of beats used on things like Drug Ballard (brilliant song btw), and Bitch Please II (which is much more Dre like than Eminem's usual muddled beats).
As to Kanye I don't think some of his music is the worst. I actually like some of it, but just listen to how he's pronouncing his words, and the extent of his vocab. In my opinion, it's not great.
He is a bit slow, his tracks seem to lack power and presence. Nas has always been better and I think Nas has owned him on every track they perform together on. Nas raps like he has a cause, a point to get across. Jay-z raps like he's going through the motions.
I find his excuse over the whole Manchester lyrics a bit weak really and disappointing though there is a certain validity to his overall perspective on it IMO it is kind of like free speech in that doesn't mean you can just say anything without filter. I was expecting the outrage to be a bit of an over-reaction but having actually read them there wasn't really any need for including those lines.
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All his music sounds the same to be honest.
He's good, there's a place for him. I don't listen to Hip Hop/Rap but when his first album dropped I was in to it.
I like how his albums are more like stories than music.
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Yea.... this isn't really my kinda album. I'm a metal head!
Whats turned me off is Those Kinda Nights with Ed Sheeran..... oh dear!
This album is too popy for me.
He's good, there's a place for him. I don't listen to Hip Hop/Rap but when his first album dropped I was in to it.
I like how his albums are more like stories than music.
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Yea.... this isn't really my kinda album. I'm a metal head!
Whats turned me off is Those Kinda Nights with Ed Sheeran..... oh dear!
This album is too popy for me.
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Guess its more older stuff really.
From my "Stuff" spotify playlist there is mostly the following.
Earlier Eminem, up to maybe the Eminem Show though there are a few good tracks after.
Wu tang clan/all the individuals
Dre
Earlier Snoop
Cypress hill
Some of the gangster stuff from the late 80's/90's, NWA etc
Bit of Nas
Some Biggy and Tupac
Little bit of Young MC
Couple of DMX tracks
Not so much the verbal skills, as some I dont like are excellent in that regard but its the tunes/beats I dont really like, find myself listening to modern grime more than modern rap.
Ah, all the good stuff then. That's what I like to see. None of this mumble rubbish.
Nothing will ever come close to the 90s west coast rappers for me. Golden era.
In other news, Eminem has achieved his 10th consecutive UK number one album, as well as 10th number one single. Not bad.
https://www.officialcharts.com/char...red-by-and-godzilla-debut-at-number-1__28448/
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This album has grown on me after a few listens, but still not keen on the features, apart from Royce. They just seem so out of place, like Young M.A on the first track, just doesn't fit at all IMO. Darkness has to be up there with some of his best work though, only track in a long time I haven't wanted to end and had to listen to it again.
Darkness is one of the best on the album to be honest.
I also like stepdad, little engine & yah yah though.