The floor area is not square and some awkward cuts are required. I am going to query the quote today. They want £1900 to fit a 25m^2 room and £1130 to do a £13m^2 bedroom. It seems disproportionate to me.
Engineered Wood Flooring
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The floor area is not square and some awkward cuts are required. I am going to query the quote today. They want £1900 to fit a 25m^2 room and £1130 to do a £13m^2 bedroom. It seems disproportionate to me.
See if you can get him to budge on the quote - tell him you'll pay cash if you can get a better deal.
It's not a bad quote and you want it done professionally then your going to pay for it.
You also need to make sure the wood has aclimatised to your house - when you get the wood next step that should be taken is to remove all of the flooring from its box and leave it in the room in which it is going to be laid. By doing this, the boards will adjust to the rooms natural humidity and therefore acclimatise. The boards should be left inside the room for as long as possible before complete installation. It is recommended that the wood is left to acclimatise for at least a week, though this time could be increased with higher moisture contents.
It's not a bad quote and you want it done professionally then your going to pay for it.
You also need to make sure the wood has aclimatised to your house - when you get the wood next step that should be taken is to remove all of the flooring from its box and leave it in the room in which it is going to be laid. By doing this, the boards will adjust to the rooms natural humidity and therefore acclimatise. The boards should be left inside the room for as long as possible before complete installation. It is recommended that the wood is left to acclimatise for at least a week, though this time could be increased with higher moisture contents.
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Its easy to cut and say you make a few bad cuts, get an extra pack, far cheaper then the cost of fitting.
And don't go for trim round the edges, it looks naff, take old skirting off and put nice new stuff down on top hiding the flooring edge or reuse skirting if it's ok.
And don't go for trim round the edges, it looks naff, take old skirting off and put nice new stuff down on top hiding the flooring edge or reuse skirting if it's ok.
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He has a point actually. A lot of you display an alarming lack of common sense, evidenced by the large quantity of retarded GD threads.
If you can take off the skirting and architraves with out breaking them ,yes it will look better 
Also as stated you will need to fill and probably repaint,risk of getting paint all over your nice new floor
BUT in my experience it is 50/50 getting these off in one piece.Better to use new(but of course this adds to the cost)
Taking the architraves off on the last wall section (if there are any there)really helps as you fold/click the last plank line into place
Also as stated you will need to fill and probably repaint,risk of getting paint all over your nice new floorBUT in my experience it is 50/50 getting these off in one piece.Better to use new(but of course this adds to the cost)
Taking the architraves off on the last wall section (if there are any there)really helps as you fold/click the last plank line into place
I laid about 40m2 of bamboo in my flat. It was the first time I had done a job like that. Removing the skirting isn't as hard as you might think. I re used mine. Door frames and architraves can be undercut with a flooring saw. There is no need to remove them.
Tools:
Chop saw
Circular saw
Flooring saw
Sharp jimmy bar
Hammer
That lot won't cost more than £250 for reasonable stuff.
Tools:
Chop saw
Circular saw
Flooring saw
Sharp jimmy bar
Hammer
That lot won't cost more than £250 for reasonable stuff.
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Ooooooo touchy
Point still stands. What exactly is this thread supposed to achieve? Either its a fair price, or it isn't. You have far more investigative power than anybody here, given you are the one actually commissioning the work.Ooooooo touchy
I am asking what others have paid for similar. I can't help you connect the dots, if you are still struggling to keep up with this thread then don't post.
Well, all I can add is that it won't take them more than 1 day's work (I had my 40m^2 flat laid down in less than a day).
Do they have to lay it in the kitchen area? That's usually more complicated if they have to lift the whole kitchen cabinets etc. to fit it under so it will add to the cost.
Overall your quote is pricey so perhaps you can ask for another quote somewhere else to haggle them down a couple hundred quid at least.
Do they have to lay it in the kitchen area? That's usually more complicated if they have to lift the whole kitchen cabinets etc. to fit it under so it will add to the cost.
Overall your quote is pricey so perhaps you can ask for another quote somewhere else to haggle them down a couple hundred quid at least.
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I believe it is about £345.72 expensive.
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for those in the know, quikstep is one of the best, if not the best in the engineered wood floor market, i paid £28 trade price for it /1.2 square metre(1 pack)
and to be honest, i personaly dont think there is any such thing as 'decent vinyl' its all ****
Engineered flooring is just a posh word for laminate flooring, it's still only mm's of laminate timber on plywood or mdf. Try looking at ALLOC for expensive
http://www.europe.alloc.com/cgi-bin/alloc/imaker?id=34525
The vinyl stuff isn't that bad, polyfloor and amtico are well respected products
http://www.polyflor.com/JH/products.nsf/products!open&family=het&prodcode=fmiwr56
http://www.amtico.com/pages/RangeInfo.aspx?id=5366
You can buy solid oak boards for £25 sq m which are quite nice
The problem with solid wood floor boards is that they expand and contract with the room temperature. The engineered wood does not. These boards are actually multi layered, they are just as thick as the solid boards but they are layers which have been pressed together. The engineered boards I saw in the popular DIY stores were not as good quality, with only a 4mm veneer of oak on top of the plywood base, as you described.
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It does
I fitted a real oak floor a few years ago,25mm all around was needed.Even after fitting the skirting last i had to use a makeup piece.(i think you can use a strip of cork filler to make up the expansion gap if you want) ,this will do away with the need to use a quadrant etc
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Oh right, my bad, didn't understand that, terribly sorry.
So i presume you have a schedule of works/break down of the quotation, what product is being used and what labour costs are. You know, something actually scientifically analysable other than 'guys, is this piece of string TOO long?'
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i would never have thought that vinyl would be that good, lol
as you have said you can get a quality solid wood board for £25-£30 sq m, and i was in the process of getting this,
but the guy who was fitting for me, asked me two questions,
do you have a dog?
are there women in the house who wear high heels?
the answer was yes to both, at this point he highly recomended i use quikstep, which to be honest, i had not heard of before.
but the whole quikstep system has worked a treat in my house