England Euro 2020 Squad Chat

[omnomnom]

Henderson is just coming back from a long and Phillips is currently injured...that's a brave move.

 

[omnomnom]

I'm being a bit facetious, part of the problem is there isn't really any better options at CB. I might have taken Keane over Mings but as I've said in the past it's a far cry from the glory days of figuring out who to play from Sol/Rio/JT/Woody/King etc. Not pinning any blame on the manager for that, I'm just not as sold as some seem to be on the impending glory of this supposedly exciting squad. This bookies have England as second favourites very marginally behind France on average, I'm not buying that myself although I suppose some teams have a harder draw.

Always happens. England will be backed and will push them to near favourites.

------------ HENDERSON -----------

TRENT --- MAGUIRE --- STONES --- SHAW

--- HENDERSON --- RICE ---- MOUNT ----

--- SANCHO --- KANE --- FODEN ----

Is the right team.

All these players play 443. Southgate will **** it up though and and shoehorn another defender in there and concede midfield.

These are the best players in their best positions. Maybe switch the CBs left and right. I dunno which ones would be better with Rice and Henderson filling in.

Obvs Sancho and Foden to swap over at times and Trent to make it 3-4-3 as he does. Shaw to do his lazy ass puffing his chest out stuff. Leaving the defence exposed so we lose the odd game and probably the quarter or the semi thanks to a corner he's conceded.

Swap Foden for Grealish and ill shake your hand on that team.

 

[omnomnom]

He hasnt really loaded up on defenders if he plays a back 5. Reece James and Walker can both play as part of that three and you'd have Tripper or Trent on the right of it and Shaw or Chilwell on the other side.

 

[omnomnom]

you play with a max of 5 defenders and hes named 10

hes 100% loaded up on defenders

Ok lets say he plays a standard 442 how many defenders would you expect him to take?

 

[omnomnom]

It's a 26 man squad, 23 outfield players.

If you've got 10 defenders to cover 5 defensive positions, that leaves you with 13 midfielders and forwards, to cover 5 midfield and forward positions, which doesn't seem tremendously unbalanced.

I think there's an argument to say 9 defenders would be adequate (say 2 LB, 2 RB and 5 CB to play a LB CB CB CB RB formation) but cutting it much more than that would leave you a bit light on cover for those positions. I'd personally prefer more midfield/forward options as they're more likely to change the makeup of a game for you if you're struggling.

The issue is not so much the number of defenders, more so the fact it seems a bit lopsided in favour of RBs. It looks less odd though if you assume he's considering Walker or James as more of a right sided CB (in a three) or TAA or Trippier as a winger/midfielder more than a defender.

Exactly. Its two players for every position.

 

[omnomnom]

None of them bar Reece James play in a back 5 for club so is rather pointless. Play the players to what they know.

If he is going to play a back 3 might as well just stick coady in the middle and be done with it.

Out of the 4 rbs the only two he will put in a 3 is Walker and James. Both of which have played there before for club or country.

 

[omnomnom]

Ridiculous challenges by Austria here.

 

[omnomnom]

Grealish is clearly being targeted. Shocking this

 

[omnomnom]

This isnt very good....didnt expect it to be to be honest.

 

[omnomnom]

Shouldnt of been going anyway

now recall lingaard or watkins

Shouldnt of been going but you want Lingard in?

lol

 

[omnomnom]

It was stupid taking 4 right backs, and tbh, Trent looked pretty poor last night. He’s not 100% anyway. Lingard will be a handy option. He did very well in the last World Cup. Hopefully he can reproduce that in the euros.

No one last night played well. He just mis controlled the ball a few times. Him being injured is a massive blow for England.

 

[omnomnom]

The players don't know how stupid they look though, kneeling is a BLM initiative and BLM want to (among other things) dismantle capitalism, so you have people earning £50k-£200k a week showing support for a movement (behind its marketing slogan name) that would if successful see them joining bread lines along with the rest of the crowd, booing or otherwise.

There was nothing wrong with KickItOut, all BLM have achieved in their short time is drive a big wedge between everyone.

No it isnt. You are linking to the BLM movement but thats not where "taking the knee" originated.

 

[omnomnom]

Then that's where the education needs to come in as that's what I thought taking the knee referenced. As it wasn't done before all this BLM stuff happened.

Yes it was.

They have made it clear why they are taking the knee...the booing is ridiculous.

 

[omnomnom]

Regardless of where it originated or what it is meant to represent, there is no reason people have to agree with doing it before every match. How long will this continue? Who calls time on it? What has it achieved?

There will always be racists. Football still wants to break into China in a massive way and China is massively racist. Football only cares about money. Empty gestures like this just end up annoying people and then people come along and call them racist for not wanting to see it done before every match.

Why on earth would kneeling for 20 seconds annoy people unless they disagree with the message the players are trying to send?

 

[omnomnom]

Also it seems its ok to kneel for a political/racism message but cant wear a poppy on the shirt??

But you can?

 

[omnomnom]

After watching the 2 warm up games I don't have the greatest confidence going into this tournament and would have liked to seen the side Southgate plans on starting with get atleast 45 mins together on the pitch, seems odd that some of the players picked for the friendlys are not even going to the euros.

I imagine a lot of that was because we dont have the euro finals players. You would hope he mixes it up at the first game vs Croatia but he will no doubt end up with a Sterling, Rashford and Kane front three.

 

[omnomnom]

To be fair Maguire and Stones look to have plenty of mistakes in them as well.

Rather see Grealish or Sancho play than Sterling or Rashford.

All our defenders have an error in them especially the fella in nets.

 

[omnomnom]

I'd probably go for Kane upfront with Grealish Mount and Foden in behind, Henderson Rice DMF then Shaw Maguire stones and walker at the back for Croatia as taking control of midfield and stopping Moderic playing will be key.

It doesnt look like Maguire will be fit until after the group stages.

 

[omnomnom]

That has got Phil Neville **** up written all over it. Aka Euro 2000. I can imagine it now Maguire strolling into the last 16 and messing it all up.

Thing is, he'll likely need a few games to get up to speed. I dont think he plays this tournament.

 

[omnomnom]

Foden is staggering. Yes, he's helped by playing for a great team, but he wouldn't be in that team if he wasn't better than a lot of players worth tens of millions. He's the best young player England have had for a long, long time, and I'd argue that for his age the only better players I've seen are Messi, Mbappe, and possibly Rooney, Fabregas and Ronaldo (to be clear, obviously Ronaldo is an all time great, but he was a relatively late bloomer, moving to United at 18 and taking a couple of years to really blossom)

This is a bit much. Hes a good young player but this is a bit far. Ive yet to see him really control a game or be the reason City have stepped up a level.